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which one first ?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:46 am
by gqmudder91
hello i own a 93 ford mavrick ute and was wandering which one to do first to lift it a leaf ova conversion extended shackles or shocks looking for a 2 to 4 inch lift have not decided yet which ones thanks guys
:D

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:59 am
by coxy321
A SOA conversion will net you an instant 4-6 inch lift straight off the bat - but will be quite expensive.

If your pockets aren't deep enough for an SOA conversion, just go springs/shocks/shackles. And remember when you're looking at brands etc. that 99% of the time you will get what you pay for.

Maybe give Shane at Suspension Stuff a call...... ?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:30 pm
by gqmudder91
stupid question wat is a soa conversion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:44 pm
by zookimal
gqmudder91 wrote:stupid question wat is a soa conversion?
Spring Over Axle. Same as what you're calling Leaf Over. Are you intending on keeping QLD rego?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:46 pm
by jtraf
gqmudder91 wrote:stupid question wat is a soa conversion?
SOA = Spring Over Axle

Re: which one first ?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:11 pm
by bigbluemav
gqmudder91 wrote:hello i own a 93 ford mavrick ute and was wandering which one to do first to lift it a leaf ova conversion extended shackles or shocks looking for a 2 to 4 inch lift have not decided yet which ones thanks guys
:D
Are you talking about the rear springs (only) being leaves, or front AND rear? I though only the EARLY utes had leaves F & R, whereas leaf rear was an option, with coils std after about 1990.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:53 pm
by Tower
cant really do shocks until you sort out how high you want to lift it

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:19 pm
by gqmudder91
yer front and rear leaf sprung and yer keeping my qld rego and how hard is to do

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:23 pm
by striga22
cheapst way you can do it is make your own shackles and the then get a shock to suit i wouldnt do a spring over because they come very unstable

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:30 pm
by big red
gqmudder91 wrote:yer front and rear leaf sprung and yer keeping my qld rego and how hard is to do
pretty sure SOA is illegal in Qld

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:47 pm
by bogged
big red wrote:
gqmudder91 wrote:yer front and rear leaf sprung and yer keeping my qld rego and how hard is to do
pretty sure SOA is illegal in Qld
isnt it illegal everywhere?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:19 pm
by BadMav
Pretty dumb rule when you consider that a hilux is spring over from factory huh??? :roll:

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:06 pm
by coxy321
BadMav wrote:Pretty dumb rule when you consider that a hilux is spring over from factory huh??? :roll:
Ummm.... not really. Its FACTORY fitment/design, ie. lots of R&D, plus all of the driveline and suspension is built and tested to suit. Hilux's are also a completely different beast compared to either MQ/MK/GQ Patrols.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:30 pm
by BadMav
coxy321 wrote:
BadMav wrote:Pretty dumb rule when you consider that a hilux is spring over from factory huh??? :roll:
Ummm.... not really. Its FACTORY fitment/design, ie. lots of R&D, plus all of the driveline and suspension is built and tested to suit. Hilux's are also a completely different beast compared to either MQ/MK/GQ Patrols.
Fair enough, but I was told by a QLD transport inspector that the reason that they won't allow a SOA conversion is that if there is a failure particularly with the u bolts, the axle is not contained within the confines of the spring and chassis and had nothing to do with the handling of the vehicle.

That's just what HE said, the real reason is probably like you said "research and development".

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:42 pm
by coxy321
I know the front diffs have a torque bar, but the rear doesn't. I suppose like most things relating to vehicle modification, the authorities have set rules in place to stop dodgy-arsed clowns bodging up their own SOA conversions. Its not to say that there aren't people out there doing good work (some work i've seen is BETTER than factory), however, they need to have a rule for all to save the heartache.

On a side note, i thought there used to be 2-3 workshops down here that did legit and engineered SOA's a few years back.

Re: which one first ?

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:21 am
by gut42
bigbluemav wrote:
gqmudder91 wrote:hello i own a 93 ford mavrick ute and was wandering which one to do first to lift it a leaf ova conversion extended shackles or shocks looking for a 2 to 4 inch lift have not decided yet which ones thanks guys
:D
Are you talking about the rear springs (only) being leaves, or front AND rear? I though only the EARLY utes had leaves F & R, whereas leaf rear was an option, with coils std after about 1990.
Pretty sure coils did come in utes till bout 94 on.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:28 pm
by nastytroll
My coil cab is dec 1992. I think the change was either end of 1991 or end of 1992. I used to have problems getting parts through nissan because they said it was leaf, until this FAST system came in.

I would price up a coiled rolling chassis before playing with leaves. Leaf springs them selves are expensive compared to coils and the mods to get leaves to work make them expensive too.

A coil rolling chassis can be bought cheap these days and give you all the core components for what you want to acheive with the added benefiet of comfort.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:15 pm
by gqmudder91
yer but how hard is it to do dont have a lot of money

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:17 pm
by gqmudder91
yer but how hard is it to do dont have a lot of money