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EXO design
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:03 pm
by DeWsE
Hey guys because I have decided to be Grimace like sam and redzook I need to design an exo just to help the roof not get creased when I roll.
This picture is what i'm thinking of.....what do you think.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:13 pm
by redzook
why not the hole body?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:18 pm
by DeWsE
redzook wrote:why not the hole body?
Don't know why I seem to think that is enough.
Does this design look better?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:30 pm
by HRZOOK
Can't be TOO careful
more like this
HRZOOK
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:35 pm
by DeWsE
yeah your right, maybe some armer proofing to set things off nicely.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:36 pm
by redzook
HRZOOK wrote:Can't be TOO careful
more like this
HRZOOK
I CAN STILL SEE WHITE PAINT
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:41 pm
by DeWsE
How is your designed redzook?
I know you posted pics ages ago but my search button has frozen up: )
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:42 pm
by redzook
im sure there are pics in my members thread
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:43 pm
by DeWsE
Got width!!!!!!!!!!! looks like someone is making up for something else that they lack
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:44 pm
by grimbo
I reckon the 2nd one is the right direction.
And what are you grinning about
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:50 pm
by redzook
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:55 pm
by DeWsE
grumpo wrote:And what are you grinning about
I had a bonner
Yeah starting to think that should be the design I will go with.
Hey redzook looked at the pics in members section, but couldn't see how the roof was designed.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:44 pm
by germo
the cross brace you have up the top is a good idea, it will help the exo to not flex onto the body when it rolls. Redzook doesn't have that, (he should) but I would make it a full X. makes for a much stonger exo. but ads a tiny bit more weight up top.
ashley
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:10 pm
by DeWsE
The reason why their is only one is coz I consider that 40mm tube will be strong enough in compression as well as tension. Just consider that the two front corners are the most likely to take the weight so the the pics show the two stresses on the bars.
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:39 am
by germo
yeah fair enough. I can see your point.
the pictures are a real masterpeice.
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:52 am
by DeWsE
germo wrote: yeah fair enough. I can see your point.
the pictures are a real masterpeice.
Yeah well I was trying to work at the same time.
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:28 pm
by RUFF
Only real probs i see with this exo cage is that there is nothing stopping the entire cage falling sideways on a hard roll/flop as there is no cross brace on the B-Hoop. And there is also not much stopping it from folding backward or forward if the vehicle endo's or flips backward. Tying the A- Pillar into a tube front bar will help this a little.
If your only looking for a little more protection from light flops and rubbing on trees and rocks then this Exo should be fine but if you are wanting a cage that will save you in a roll you have no real choice but to also add atleast a 4 point internal cage. Unless you are happy to cut holes through the body to cross brace it.
The same also goes for Redzooks Exo design.
Exo cages are always a compromise.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 7:47 pm
by redzook
RUFF wrote:Only real probs i see with this exo cage is that there is nothing stopping the entire cage falling sideways on a hard roll/flop as there is no cross brace on the B-Hoop. And there is also not much stopping it from folding backward or forward if the vehicle endo's or flips backward. Tying the A- Pillar into a tube front bar will help this a little.
If your only looking for a little more protection from light flops and rubbing on trees and rocks then this Exo should be fine but if you are wanting a cage that will save you in a roll you have no real choice but to also add atleast a 4 point internal cage. Unless you are happy to cut holes through the body to cross brace it.
The same also goes for Redzooks Exo design.
Exo cages are always a compromise.
thats all mine is built for
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:03 pm
by antt
i'm about to do mine in a few weeks and have decided to do the following design. its hard to see the roof so the second attachment is how i planned to brace it. its not as strong as a 'double x' on the roof, but its mainly to provide the most protection for the drivers seat.
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:09 pm
by suzukisam
all you are really going to get it something to stop the gutter getting dings in it. Why don't you just weld some angle iron along the gutter line and run some laterals that could double as roofracks...
weight up top is not good and is more likely to make you roll...
and if you are getting so worried about crossbracing on your cages, why not run tensioned wires in an 'X' across all the available openings, you could even run some across the front window.
my experience with bars has been that they are fine for stopping supermarket trolleys putting scratches in your paint, but they cause more damage in a real impact.
spot the bars on my rig..........
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:37 pm
by DeWsE
did I find all of them?
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:45 pm
by HRZOOK
I think driving in NZ is a little different to driving in OZ. (or what I have seen from photos)
NZ seems to be mud and slop while Oz brush driving is more rock
Hence you might not need a cage in NZ if ya flop but here you can cause a fair bit of damage......believe me I know.
HRZOOK
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:05 pm
by suzukisam
HRZOOK wrote:NZ seems to be mud and slop while Oz brush driving is more rock
HRZOOK
depends where ya go, this photo might show a bit less mud...(not me in the first shot)
the one up the right way is my old rig....
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:06 pm
by suzukisam
DeWsE wrote:did I find all of them?
you missed them all - bar one......
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:37 pm
by DeWsE
That first photo looks that same as my car, minnus the creased roof. What did you do with it after that happened? Was it a write off?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:21 am
by grimbo
I put the exo on mine for a number of reasons but mainly to save the windscreen surround. i had previously come close to smashing it on near rolls and didn't want to go to the hassles of having to do a major repair. I have since lent it against a couple of trees and rested it on the ground on a near front endo. It hasn't shifted or buckled yet has saved the cab. The added weight I can live with, but i have noticed it.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:39 pm
by suzukisam
DeWsE wrote:That first photo looks that same as my car, minnus the creased roof. What did you do with it after that happened? Was it a write off?
It is a guy on our nzook forum, he is still looking for a new body to do a swap.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:02 pm
by DeWsE
suzukisam wrote:DeWsE wrote:That first photo looks that same as my car, minnus the creased roof. What did you do with it after that happened? Was it a write off?
It is a guy on our nzook forum, he is still looking for a new body to do a swap.
Pity your in NZ I would sell my body to him.
professor wrote:I've been down that road before, I know the money's good but you'll just end up spending it all on gold chains and tight jeans.