Outer Limits 4x4 Board

been thinking about updating the side steps on my patrol and incorperating rock sliders into the design, so far its just a lot of scribbling on pieces of paper.

But I found this site while crusing the web ....interesting stuff I thought !

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/RockSliderZ.shtml


what does everyone else think about their designs ????

Kingy

They look a bit like the ones I just made for the maverick, but not as good.

The reason I say not as good is that I think they should have a more "closed" design. Hard to explain in words (and I don't have a pic of mine) but if you imagine the slider as a ladder, I believe that there should be a rung at each end, whereas with that design the last rung at each end is in a few inches, and the side parts stick forward.

I just think it's more likely to catch on something and get rooted that way.

Jason

Also some at

http://george4wd.taskled.com/

This is how I did mine.
Paul.

chimpboy wrote:should have a more "closed" design....I just think it's more likely to catch on something and get rooted that way.

Jason

Agree,

some of the best designs in my opinion are those that deflect and slide on the rock rather than that of plough attachments that can catch such as on your link V8Patrol

coupla pics
check out ih8mud.com
theres a few links there i think to some slider designs

personally i think the best slider option is the design where u can actually slide over stuff not with the rails where u might get a rock in between ur mounts

Has anyone set thier sliders as an air tank?

I was thinking about the possibilities of putting an air fitment on one end and running the other to the compressor.

Any with pics?

Very interesting designs so far ....... but I'm concerned about the "rungs" in the ladder design. These surley leave room for an unwanted hookup ???

I too dont like the "open end" sliderZ, I would definately look at turning the end in towards the chassis at the read and as for the front it will continue up as a nerf bar for the front guard.

The last design with the sheet steel cover looks promising maybe a couple of minor mods and I'd be away

Basically I want a side step because of the rigs height, but need sliderZ for underbody protection as well as an anti hookup feature......

Keep the designs comming guys

Kingy

Croz wrote:Has anyone set thier sliders as an air tank?

I was thinking about the possibilities of putting an air fitment on one end and running the other to the compressor.

Any with pics?

My sliders are air tanks - 50mm diameter, 4mm wall tube with 10mm flatbar welded on and then drilled and tapped for the air fittings. I don't have a closeup pic but if you look really closely you can see an air line coupling and blow off valve on the slider just behind the door.

Here is a closeup - sorry, pic is still crappy. The line in from the compressor runs between the fuel tank and the chassis crossmember in front of it, so there is no chance of it being ripped off by rocks. You can just see the coupling and the brass pressure releif valve behind the door.

I like this style and it sounds like what you wanted
http://realcruiser.com/60sliders/index.html

I liked the one from superior alignments.. they had air reserviors inside their tubes and told me that it strengthened the chassis against twisting when climbing.

Dont have pics of it.. but they had a simliar style to the bundytunna's post with 3mm plates wrapped around it to look like a sill.

Top work.. and a cost of 1600 for the tube bars from them

yesss
http://aev-conversions.com/ssi/osb/showitem.cfm?ID=18

few more
how were u thinking of mounting them???
quite a few ppl run them with u bolts but personally i dont think it 'd be strong enuf unless there are a few mounts

not a bad design Bundy ....... love the dents in both doors

I think they are close to what I'm looking for with a few mods added to suit.

I'll be welding plates to the chassis and bolting the sliders to those plates, main diferance will be the front which will continue up and then along for a nerf bar for the front guard ....... basically I'm looking at a beefed up side step that will act as a slider, nerf bar and step all in one design.

Similar to the design of the above pic of the 60 series ...... I like this one

Kingy

WTF if a nerf bar
is it like a siderail???
yeh i agree the sliders on the 60 are just bout right for me too

nerf bar = siderail

thought so
just never heard em called that b4

V8Patrol wrote: the front which will continue up and then along for a nerf bar for the front guard ....... basically I'm looking at a beefed up side step that will act as a slider, nerf bar and step all in one design.

Personally I think side rails or nerf bars as you call them are a waste of time! I've got ARB side rails on my 80 series and they've caused damage that would have been avoided without them.

I had a fairly large branch get jammed in behind it while doing an overgrown track which then proceeded to pivot around on the siderail and cave in my quater panel. This panel is now a throw away item but because of this I don't think they are worth protecting!!!!

I'm going to fvck them off and make sliderz out of 60 mm steam pipe. With 90 degree weld in bends on the ends which will turn into the chassis and bolt on in 3 places very similar to a pic early in the thread via plates welded to the chassis.

Here's my Jibtz custom rails...I love 'em!



Jbitz.com.au

cheezy's sliders
not bad for 600 bucks

The Fish wrote:Personally I think side rails or nerf bars as you call them are a waste of time! I've got ARB side rails on my 80 series and they've caused damage that would have been avoided without them.

Yeah I have suffered minor damage as a direct result of the nerfs, but they have also saved me heaps of times. Usually against larger objects (trees) is where they come in handy, my main driving enviroment is the Otways ...... heavily tree'd, slippery mud and huge hills with ugly slopes.

I currently run an alloy bar and it has worked well but it flex's a bit too much and has actually made contact with the guard a couple of times but has never damaged it. The main damage I get as a direct result from the nerf is small tree limbs hooking up and then flicking out along the door ..... lots & lots of scratches.

Kingy

Whats the preferred method for fitting sliders to the chassis rails?

- Weld on
- Bolt hrough holes drilled in chassis rails
- Bolt around chassis with backing plate?

Id guess welding on would be really solid, but Ive heard that Engineers/RTA can be funny on this?

I'm going to have a crack at building my own in a few weeks.

id say bolt on around the chassis, as you can take them off again and you havent drilled holes or welded anything structural.

i dont really like that sheet metal idea as the body needs to flex differently to the chassis, and when landing on rocks they would push into the body.