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Well these suckers aren't officially released yet, but I got my hands on some today.

They look the goods too. slightly smaller than the XGT and Blitz 240's so they should fit in 99% of bull bars, they also have multiple mounting options.

The best thing of course is they finally have a spread beam spotlight

Sadly though they are only available as HID's initially, and they have no plans to have the spread beams incorporated into the XGT range. \

RRP is $620 each

They look nice ... which is the most important thing when buying spotties, right?

When are Lightforce going to help us keep our lights by coming up with a theft resistant mounting system though? I guess they like the turnover ... more sales ... but the up/down pivot bolt is just dopily easy to unscrew and take off with the light even if the mount is locked in place. The only options are the lockable nuts (which don't seem to stop thieves for long anyway) or tabs welded to the bullbar to prevent access to that bolt/nut. And at $600 a pop ... sheesh.

There is an anti theft kit which as I understand it locks the bolt into the hole on the pivot, so even if some oxygen thief undoes the nut, he can't remove the bolt.

As for the actual bolts that secure it to the bar, there are only tamper proof nuts or the option of a spot of weld on the thread

Mate had a set on order for over 12 mths. they could never tell him when they would be released.. so he told them to insert them in their anus and see if the light really shone..

bogged wrote:Mate had a set on order for over 12 mths. they could never tell him when they would be released.. so he told them to insert them in their anus and see if the light really shone..

Why would you order something without knowing the release date, then get your knickers in a twist about not knowing the release date?

Even more perlexing is why someone would be mates with bogged?

dogbreath_48 wrote:

bogged wrote:Mate had a set on order for over 12 mths. they could never tell him when they would be released.. so he told them to insert them in their anus and see if the light really shone..

Why would you order something without knowing the release date, then get your knickers in a twist about not knowing the release date?

Even more perlexing is why someone would be mates with bogged?

Lol.

They've got 2500 odd in stock and although not officially released until May they're available for order/sale now

dogbreath_48 wrote:

bogged wrote:Mate had a set on order for over 12 mths. they could never tell him when they would be released.. so he told them to insert them in their anus and see if the light really shone..

Why would you order something without knowing the release date, then get your knickers in a twist about not knowing the release date?

Even more perlexing is why someone would be mates with bogged?

might be cause they were advertising them in the magazines for 12 months and thinking they were available until find out not released yet. and then always promised they would be released in a month or two when really they had no idea.

VinceGU05 wrote:

dogbreath_48 wrote:

bogged wrote:Mate had a set on order for over 12 mths. they could never tell him when they would be released.. so he told them to insert them in their anus and see if the light really shone..

Why would you order something without knowing the release date, then get your knickers in a twist about not knowing the release date?

Even more perlexing is why someone would be mates with bogged?

might be cause they were advertising them in the magazines for 12 months and thinking they were available until find out not released yet. and then always promised they would be released in a month or two when really they had no idea.

Maybe.

Nevertheless they look the goods - given this is the first redesigned light they've made since the XGT/HID (5yrs++?) there ought to have been a decent amount of development gone into them. They look to be a good size, too.

dogbreath_48 wrote:

VinceGU05 wrote:

dogbreath_48 wrote:

bogged wrote:Mate had a set on order for over 12 mths. they could never tell him when they would be released.. so he told them to insert them in their anus and see if the light really shone..

Why would you order something without knowing the release date, then get your knickers in a twist about not knowing the release date?

Even more perlexing is why someone would be mates with bogged?

might be cause they were advertising them in the magazines for 12 months and thinking they were available until find out not released yet. and then always promised they would be released in a month or two when really they had no idea.

Maybe.

Nevertheless they look the goods - given this is the first redesigned light they've made since the XGT/HID (5yrs++?) there ought to have been a decent amount of development gone into them. They look to be a good size, too.

naa for sure..

but yeah.. they are a great size and would have been awesome to have and look the goods

Moph wrote:They look nice ... which is the most important thing when buying spotties, right?

When are Lightforce going to help us keep our lights by coming up with a theft resistant mounting system though? I guess they like the turnover ... more sales ... but the up/down pivot bolt is just dopily easy to unscrew and take off with the light even if the mount is locked in place. The only options are the lockable nuts (which don't seem to stop thieves for long anyway) or tabs welded to the bullbar to prevent access to that bolt/nut. And at $600 a pop ... sheesh.

Agreed with the ease at which scum can steal these lights, I have to come up with a way to prevent mine being nicked, also, the 'traditional' lightforce lights can stick out too far on some bullbars, not a problem with my 45, but hilux bullbars come immediately to mind. Might ask the brass on AHN.

i hear they make good shift lights...

lol for a 50" tacho

Having been using LED light bars of late, and HID headlights, the driving light makers must be getting nervous about new releases these days and tooling up.

Though lets see how long before its coming from someone else looking similar.

There HID,s have come down in prices. I like them. Was never a fan of there other lights. They were having trouble with there mouldings so that is why they had a long unforseen delay. They even said they were scraping the genesis alltogether most likly to buy more time from the winges.

Cris

Auto-Craft wrote:Having been using LED light bars of late, and HID headlights, the driving light makers must be getting nervous about new releases these days and tooling up.

Though lets see how long before its coming from someone else looking similar.

I love those LED light bars (Rigid Industries?) but the price!

Hopefully someone will bring out a cheaper alternative as I think they would be great. but at over $1000 for the bigger ones.......

hj 45 wrote:Agreed with the ease at which scum can steal these lights, I have to come up with a way to prevent mine being nicked, also, the 'traditional' lightforce lights can stick out too far on some bullbars, not a problem with my 45, but hilux bullbars come immediately to mind. Might ask the brass on AHN.

I welded tabs each side so there's no way of getting a socket or wrench on them. Tighten them up nice and tight before fitting the light and there's just enough slip in them to adjust them. The mounting bolts are then drilled and padlocked under the bar.

The XGTs still stick out a fair way though - about 15mm beyond the front of my bar. Don't like their chances if I hit anything...

A.J. wrote:

Auto-Craft wrote:Having been using LED light bars of late, and HID headlights, the driving light makers must be getting nervous about new releases these days and tooling up.

Though lets see how long before its coming from someone else looking similar.

I love those LED light bars (Rigid Industries?) but the price!

Hopefully someone will bring out a cheaper alternative as I think they would be great. but at over $1000 for the bigger ones.......

And whats a pair of Genesis lights worth again ?

hi black bull im in castlereigh just 5min from you just wondering if you have you shop opened yet and what your address is would like to come and have a look

how scared of the dark are you if your forking out $800 bucks a light???

recon a pair of night vision goggles would be cheaper.

i mean $800 buys alot of $30 spotties, headlight upgrades etc.

im running hella 4000 at the moment and im all ways night drivn for work after a while if drivn night time better lights always help and you dont seem to get as tired

wolfie wrote:im running hella 4000 at the moment and im all ways night drivn for work after a while if drivn night time better lights always help and you dont seem to get as tired

i'm not disagreeing with that. but surely there comes a point where the extra couple of candle power doesn't make that much of a difference.

say if i had a decent set of HID headlights, a decent, midrange set of spotties, all the loom upgraded, will these make $1600 worth of difference?

your fine mate point takn , iv got to put some new lights on the wifes car [ hilux ] she said she would be happy with mine and i get new one's for the troll and when i said as a joke these would be nice and told her the price she replied the price of the hella 4000 and the diff. of the lighttorce isnt a great deal when u compare the diff in proformance and the amount of night drivn i do so , so she tolded me to go get some , so who's going to argue not me

wolfie wrote:your fine mate point takn , iv got to put some new lights on the wifes car [ hilux ] she said she would be happy with mine and i get new one's for the troll and when i said as a joke these would be nice and told her the price she replied the price of the hella 4000 and the diff. of the lighttorce isnt a great deal when u compare the diff in proformance and the amount of night drivn i do so , so she tolded me to go get some , so who's going to argue not me

yeah fair enough, if you can afford the extra coin, i suppose, why not?

i just can't get past the price personally, but i am cheap

wolfie wrote:hi black bull im in castlereigh just 5min from you just wondering if you have you shop opened yet and what your address is would like to come and have a look

wont be open for a few weeks mate, but I'll let ya Know when I do

hows your 80 going[orange if i got right one ]] past you a cpl of times on castle reigh rd looks good

Yeah good mate, goes great off road, still a few small issues to iron out.
Front works beautiful, too well in fact. going to have to put a limit strap on it before I tear off my new brake lines

Rear spring rates are a bit stiff on the road but I'm hoping the rear bar work, winch and extra batteries will smooth that out a bit. if not I'll play with spring rates.

Also needs a V8

bad_religion_au wrote:

wolfie wrote:your fine mate point takn , iv got to put some new lights on the wifes car [ hilux ] she said she would be happy with mine and i get new one's for the troll and when i said as a joke these would be nice and told her the price she replied the price of the hella 4000 and the diff. of the lighttorce isnt a great deal when u compare the diff in proformance and the amount of night drivn i do so , so she tolded me to go get some , so who's going to argue not me

yeah fair enough, if you can afford the extra coin, i suppose, why not?

i just can't get past the price personally, but i am cheap

Yeah same I paid $120 for my HID spot lights each. Light $60 and HID insert $60. But I would love a set of the new genises.

Cris

Black Bull wrote:Well these suckers aren't officially released yet, but I got my hands on some today.

Sadly though they are only available as HID's initially, and they have no plans to have the spread beams incorporated into the XGT range. \

Not only are they over here in the west already, they are available in halogen. got pics on my phone, will mms someone who is able to post up on here

ludacris wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

wolfie wrote:your fine mate point takn , iv got to put some new lights on the wifes car [ hilux ] she said she would be happy with mine and i get new one's for the troll and when i said as a joke these would be nice and told her the price she replied the price of the hella 4000 and the diff. of the lighttorce isnt a great deal when u compare the diff in proformance and the amount of night drivn i do so , so she tolded me to go get some , so who's going to argue not me

yeah fair enough, if you can afford the extra coin, i suppose, why not?

i just can't get past the price personally, but i am cheap

Yeah same I paid $120 for my HID spot lights each. Light $60 and HID insert $60. But I would love a set of the new genises.

Cris

Always knew it Cris (CHEAP)

we have a full range of hid KITs for the new Genesis from 35w to 100w i will post up some pic when the bulb holders are back from the paint shop
Steve