Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Good news we finally have the protrack air type lockers.

Here is a locker that fits both for front and rear ROCKY diffs

Rocky

http://www.protrack.gr/proionta/daihats ... ocker.html



For the feroza there is not yet price or pictures but now we are waiting for the front locker also to be done. See pictures from a GV (old model)

http://www.protrack.gr/proionta/suzuki/ ... itara.html

Well done - will be very interesting to see just how it relates to the cost of the vehicles second hand.

In my experience many Feroza owners want modifications but aren't prepared to pay what it costs.

It costs a lot of money for an old car, has the same price as an ARB but it can be made for every car in the market.
He has already made front and rear for the Rocky, a rear for a Feroza, and now I am waiting for my front locker for my Feroza.
He is a very good mechanic and his system works fine in all cars installed.
Same use as an ARB, with the air pump etc....

My personal opinion is that it gives no more value to the car that is installed because here in Greece, people don't buy second-hard modified cars. They prefer them as stock as possible.

Still it is a must-have equipment for an off-road vehicle!
You shall have all pictures and videos when it is ready!

for the rocky translated in english didn't see the cost though

Locker behind and front differential gear for Daihatsu Rocky. It is checked via [pepiesmenoy] air. Read More Locker, is drawn specifically for Daihatsu Rocky and his placement in the [piso] axis involves the suppression of factorial LSD. The nutshell (carier) and the mechanism of entanglement are manufactured from steels and have been submitted in thermic treatment for the biggest resistance in [kataponiseis] and in the deterioration. The pistons of air, are manufactured by brass and aluminium, for the biggest resistance in the deterioration and the erosion that is caused by the humidity because the use of [pepiesmenoy] air. The cogwheels of differential gear (planets-satellite) that we use, are factorial Daihatsu. Locker it is behind delivered with the compressor and the all essential elements [aeros], as complete wiring. The compressor they is suitable for two Lockers.

I will try to make a better human-translation, although my english is not that good:

Locker for the front and rear Daihatsu Rocky. It is controlled by compression of air.
[pepiesmenoy = compressed ]

Read More
Τhe Locker, is manufactured specially for the Daihatsu Rocky and for its installation in the rear axle you have to remove the factory LSD.
[piso = rear]

The carier and the engagement mechanism is manufactured from from steels and have been submitted in thermic treatment for better resistance in all kinds of strengths and deterioration.
[kataponisis = means mechanical strengths and violent forces]

The pistons of air, are manufactured by brass and aluminium, for the biggest resistance in the deterioration and the erosion that is caused by the humidity because the use of compressed air

The differential gear (primary/secondary gears) that we use, are factorial Daihatsu.

The locker is delivered with the air compressor and all pipes and equipments needed ie complete wiring.
The compressor supplied is suitable for two air lockers.

The price is 850 euros
+180 euros for the installation (if made)
(Price includes all Greek vat 21%)

If you run the site through Google translator you get a pretty good output and can navigate the whole site in English.

THats' pretty comparable to other lockers ( which you can't get... ) so i'd suggest its a reasonable price ( $1200Aud ). For international orders Greek VAT is refundable ?

What will be an issue to consider is shipping - don't be surprised is it ends up being double the cost delivered.

I talked with him today, and if somebody is interested he may be able to arrange an export. He has done it before for EE countries, he is willing to do it again.

To the details:
If someone is interested in ordering, he must contact him for the fitting details, the exact cost and the shipping cost and method, but in any way, you shall have to contact your local customs to learn about the vat you will have to pay for the locker to be imported in Australia.

His e-mail is
amorgianos@protrack.gr

If you have any more questions you also can ask me and I can contact with him.

P.S. I hope this is not a site-violation advertisment or something.... in any way if the admins feel like they can erase the message above.

For the Rocky he has used the stock gears so he can send the components of the locker in a small box, but for the Feroza has used different gear so the post will be bigger and heavier.

Do you know what sort of warrenty is offered with these?

Well as far as I know, if he is the one that makes the installation the warranty is 2 years.
I don't know if there will be a warranty only for the mechanism if someone else install it......

Better contact him....

i'd suggest that for an off road product - warranty is always going to be difficult for the manufacturer and purhaser.

Given the fact that lockers are likely to be fitted to vehicles that get used hard - figuring out a possible failure is always going to be a challenge.

With this being an almost unique product, and certianly not for the average driver I think its one of theose risks you have to take. Extra traction is going to stress other parts like axles / tranmissions etc. Like all 4x4's there's a limit to how much stress you can apply before something breaks.

With transfer gears i've turned standard Feroza axles into corkscrews and have chrom/molly units in my very non standard axles..... you have to build as a package.

This is not reflection on the manufacturer....... its just that off road stuff can really cop a hammering. I've see broken Rockwells/Dana 60's.... anything can be broken if you try hard enough.

And - its not as if there's much choice getting someone to make lockers for such a low volume vehicle is a small miracle in itself.

Not critizing anyone...... its just a difficult issue for everyone.

Well as MM said it is a one-way situation if someone wants a locker in stock feroza diffs..... When I ordered it I really didn't care for warranty because I didn't had/have any other choice and second because we had both front/rear protrack lockers in a Grand Vitara and they are reliable as much as any other...... after 2 years and many many times that we used them we never had a single problem with the locker itself ....

i'd suggest that for an off road product - warranty is always going to be difficult for the manufacturer and purhaser.

I agree completely but the information is interesting. The fact they do offer a warrenty for units they install does indicate a level of confidence in the strength which is reassuring even for those who would be doing a DIY fit.

Yes - i agree.

Wasn't trying to downplay anyones points - its just "off road" very often means driven VERY hard !

Has any body in Aus purchased and tried a set yet?

I am interested in having some made up for my Sportage.

I know it is not a Dahiatsu but just wanted to know if any one had succefully ordered, imported and installed?

cheers, Chris

I thinks ARB has for KIA Sportage locker.

unfortunately no.

A guy from Australia was trying to organise ARB to make one but it didn't eventuate.

Here in Greece the first protrack locker was done for a KIA SPORTAGE

News Protrack has created 2 air locker for the rear diff
http://www.protrack.gr/proionta/daihats ... eroza.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

1 locker with stock gears
1 locker with stronger gears more expensive

Also he created a front locker
http://www.protrack.gr/proionta/daihats ... eroza.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's pretty cool - if you had have suggested that anything for a Diahatsu would be available a year ago... i'd have called you VERY OPTIMISTIC.... ( or dreaming )

Lockers just make so much difference to offroad capability,

Update:
I have installed a front air-locker in my feroza six months ago.
Excellent as a product, I still haven't broken anything (yes I tried) runs perfectly and makes a great difference to the vehicles off road abilities!

here is the video of the first test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q-PGuctxA8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've spend many money to my vehicle over the past 10 years it may be the first time it is worth every single euro!!

I've used it a lot haven't made any more videos yet.....

It's more than worth installing!

*all gears inside the front diff are new, it runs on the big ARB compressor and works perfectly so far. Also front half-axles seem to have no problem even whilst turning with the diff locked.