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its an 84 hilux dual cab with 73,000kms since ground up rebuild.
fuel injected V8 commodore motor (motor was brand new at conversion) with pet/gas,rebuilt and toughened th700 auto, extractors and sports exhaust,
4in suspension lift, 2in body lift,
75 series front diff,cross-over steer,arb locker,
60 series rear with 3link rear and arb locker,
brand new 35in MTZ's on 15x10 alloy mags,
custom steel bob tray, 6point interal roll cage,
front recaro race seats, A/C, steel side steps,
steel winch bar with warn 9000pound winch, snorkel.
plus many other bits and pieces, (LF240s, cd, etc)
Body in good condition, very minor rust/dents,
FULLY ENGINEERED and rego'd for the last 8years since full conversion
theres a pic in my profile photo, (pics a few years old tho)

Just interested in what poeple would realistically pay if i decide to sell it.

whatever he's asking.
tell him he's dreaming.

sounds interesting, any piks? Id say anywhere between 6k to 12k.

Problem is its still just a "84 hilux" maybe more money would be made in wrecking it?

hat ya want for it,might have a byer

TOY-08V wrote:its an 84 hilux dual cab with 73,000kms since ground up rebuild.
fuel injected V8 commodore motor (motor was brand new at conversion) with pet/gas,rebuilt and toughened th700 auto, extractors and sports exhaust,
4in suspension lift, 2in body lift,
75 series front diff,cross-over steer,arb locker,
60 series rear with 3link rear and arb locker,
brand new 35in MTZ's on 15x10 alloy mags,
custom steel bob tray, 6point interal roll cage,
front recaro race seats, A/C, steel side steps,
steel winch bar with warn 9000pound winch, snorkel.
plus many other bits and pieces, (LF240s, cd, etc)
Body in good condition, very minor rust/dents,
FULLY ENGINEERED and rego'd for the last 8years since full conversion
theres a pic in my profile photo, (pics a few years old tho)

Just interested in what poeple would realistically pay if i decide to sell it.

I would think that a hilux engineered with 35's would be quite valuable, just the engineers certificate alone would double the value of a 84 hilux.

As rules toughen, some of the older cars whose owners where smart enough to get them engineered back when larger tyres were engineer-able will become very desirable and therefore command a higher price.

I say don't sell it, unless you need the bucks.
Peter.

Id say 7 to 10k ish, but thats only from what i've seen...

But i did find out the other day that apparently, and dont quote me on this as im still researching, but once these new laws come in, old engineers certificates dont mean squat, one of the boys on the wattos trip a few weeks back told me and the more i've looked into it the more it seems true as i've seen nothing to say differently just that over and over again

so either way, might be worth either talking to engineer to re-engineer to new guidelines... or sell soon while they're still valid

just my 2c

sounds like a sweet rig tho, got some bigger pics? keen at checking difference with bigger diffs in 84 model

Elmo wrote:Id say 7 to 10k ish, but thats only from what i've seen...

But i did find out the other day that apparently, and dont quote me on this as im still researching, but once these new laws come in, old engineers certificates dont mean squat, one of the boys on the wattos trip a few weeks back told me and the more i've looked into it the more it seems true as i've seen nothing to say differently just that over and over again

so either way, might be worth either talking to engineer to re-engineer to new guidelines... or sell soon while they're still valid

just my 2c

sounds like a sweet rig tho, got some bigger pics? keen at checking difference with bigger diffs in 84 model

Introducing\applying retrospective law in this country is very very difficult .. as it should be ..

Elmo wrote:But i did find out the other day that apparently, and dont quote me on this as im still researching, but once these new laws come in, old engineers certificates dont mean squat, one of the boys on the wattos trip a few weeks back told me and the more i've looked into it the more it seems true as i've seen nothing to say differently just that over and over again

Welcome to the internet - the world's best source of incorrect information.

-Scott- wrote:

Elmo wrote:But i did find out the other day that apparently, and dont quote me on this as im still researching, but once these new laws come in, old engineers certificates dont mean squat, one of the boys on the wattos trip a few weeks back told me and the more i've looked into it the more it seems true as i've seen nothing to say differently just that over and over again

Welcome to the internet - the world's best source of incorrect information.

But he heard it from one of the boys up the Wattos, so it must be true.

Hey Dan, you looking at selling your hunk of junk and buying something... well..... Prius like huh??? Not like you ever go out driving anyways huh

I'd say put 12k on it and stick it on the side of the road, someone will make an offer and take it from there!!

yeah brighty, i was thinking of doing that, just wasnt sure what i should ask for it, it would be a shame to get rid of it its been a tough and reliable truck and has done some pretty big trips in the past, and i'll miss the heads that it turns.

TOY-08V wrote:yeah brighty, i was thinking of doing that, just wasnt sure what i should ask for it, it would be a shame to get rid of it its been a tough and reliable truck and has done some pretty big trips in the past, and i'll miss the heads that it turns.

Think your lucky Stu hasn't seen this, he'd be into you big time about the "big trips" you've done Why are you getting rid of it anyways??

TOY-08V wrote:i'll miss the heads that it turns.

What from all the Grimace boys??

TOY-08V wrote:its an 84 hilux dual cab with 73,000kms since ground up rebuild.
fuel injected V8 commodore motor (motor was brand new at conversion) with pet/gas,rebuilt and toughened th700 auto, extractors and sports exhaust,
4in suspension lift, 2in body lift,
75 series front diff,cross-over steer,arb locker,
60 series rear with 3link rear and arb locker,
brand new 35in MTZ's on 15x10 alloy mags,
custom steel bob tray, 6point interal roll cage,
front recaro race seats, A/C, steel side steps,
steel winch bar with warn 9000pound winch, snorkel.
plus many other bits and pieces, (LF240s, cd, etc)
Body in good condition, very minor rust/dents,
FULLY ENGINEERED and rego'd for the last 8years since full conversion
theres a pic in my profile photo, (pics a few years old tho)

Just interested in what poeple would realistically pay if i decide to sell it.

is everything engineered? or just the engine conversion?

i'd probably pay 7 if it was, 4 if it wasn't

FULLY ENGINEERED, from headlights to tall lights.

r0ck_m0nkey wrote:

-Scott- wrote:

Elmo wrote:But i did find out the other day that apparently, and dont quote me on this as im still researching, but once these new laws come in, old engineers certificates dont mean squat, one of the boys on the wattos trip a few weeks back told me and the more i've looked into it the more it seems true as i've seen nothing to say differently just that over and over again

Welcome to the internet - the world's best source of incorrect information.

But he heard it from one of the boys up the Wattos, so it must be true.

And welcome to the reason why i hardly ever come on Outers anymore due to morons who think they know everything, flaming people for no reason

Did you happen to read the line that said "apparently" and "dont quote me on this as im still researching"...... or or hears a cracker.. how about the line that said "might be worth either talking to engineer " ..... you bloody tossers!!!!

Yeah ELMO, Im a mechanic and i manage a workshop who specialise in 4wds (ARB stockist) and we too have this problem with poeple who come in and tell us that they heard this and that about all these rules and regs, which funny enough have been in the grape vine for over ten years that ive been a mechanic and not one of them has ever been changed.

And to pull all the cars off the road that have been engineered previously would result in TENS OF THOUSANDS of cars not only 4x4s but lowered cars, bussines trucks, FIRE, POLICE RESCUE, SES, ENERGY AUSTRALIA, etc,
AS ALL OF THESE VEHICLES ARE MODIFIED AN HAVE BEEN ENGINEERED FOR THEIR INDIVIDIAL USES.

Yeah ELMO, Im a mechanic and i manage a workshop who specialise in 4wds (ARB stockist) and we too have this problem with poeple who come in and tell us that they heard this and that about all these rules and regs, which funny enough have been in the grape vine for over ten years that ive been a mechanic and not one of them has ever been changed.

And to pull all the cars off the road that have been engineered previously would result in TENS OF THOUSANDS of cars not only 4x4s but lowered cars, bussines trucks, FIRE, POLICE RESCUE, SES, ENERGY AUSTRALIA, etc,
AS ALL OF THESE VEHICLES ARE MODIFIED AN HAVE BEEN ENGINEERED FOR THEIR INDIVIDIAL USES.

Elmo wrote:Did you happen to read the line that said "apparently" and "dont quote me on this as im still researching"......

I read it quite clearly. Myself personally would have stopped right there and not posted any more.

I'll give you a little help with your "research". All discussions between the RTA and the working party on the proposed draft are still being done confidentially. So there really isn't any info to go off at all.

Elmo wrote:

r0ck_m0nkey wrote:

-Scott- wrote:

Elmo wrote:But i did find out the other day that apparently, and dont quote me on this as im still researching, but once these new laws come in, old engineers certificates dont mean squat, one of the boys on the wattos trip a few weeks back told me and the more i've looked into it the more it seems true as i've seen nothing to say differently just that over and over again

Welcome to the internet - the world's best source of incorrect information.

But he heard it from one of the boys up the Wattos, so it must be true.

And welcome to the reason why i hardly ever come on Outers anymore due to morons who think they know everything, flaming people for no reason

Where's the flaming?

Or are you just a little sensitive at the moment princess?

TOY-08V wrote:Yeah ELMO, Im a mechanic and i manage a workshop who specialise in 4wds (ARB stockist) and we too have this problem with poeple who come in and tell us that they heard this and that about all these rules and regs, which funny enough have been in the grape vine for over ten years that ive been a mechanic and not one of them has ever been changed.

And to pull all the cars off the road that have been engineered previously would result in TENS OF THOUSANDS of cars not only 4x4s but lowered cars, bussines trucks, FIRE, POLICE RESCUE, SES, ENERGY AUSTRALIA, etc,
AS ALL OF THESE VEHICLES ARE MODIFIED AN HAVE BEEN ENGINEERED FOR THEIR INDIVIDIAL USES.

I agree with you 100%, and always have agreed with that line of thought that it is nothing more than rumours. As far as myself personally i haver never relied on these rumours, ever since i was 17 and had my first defect which resulted in my truck being de-registered and the loss of my license, everything i have ever done has been legitimately engineered and have spoke to the RTA, Registered Engineers and read and re-read the rules more times than i care to remember.

The only reason i even mentioned it was due a few reasons,
a: the sheer number of rumours about this lately is beyond comprehension and i was curious as to whether there was any validity to it
b: the positions in the industry of people from which some of the rumours were coming from, as they are the sort of people who you would think would actually know the truth... and
c: the widely publicised crackdown and tightening of the new laws that are to be introduced....
I never said any of it was gospel, i said this is what i heard, you might wanna look into it. I personally wish everyone would just stick to facts, which is why, like i said, im still looking into it myself so that my 2 current builds remain legal

r0ck_m0nkey wrote:
I'll give you a little help with your "research". All discussions between the RTA and the working party on the proposed draft are still being done confidentially. So there really isn't any info to go off at all.

Now that /\ was helpful.... Now wasnt that /\ better than \/

r0ck_m0nkey wrote:
But he heard it from one of the boys up the Wattos, so it must be true.

hey mate sounds like a good truck around the $20000

Marty SOC RACING wrote:hey mate sounds like a good truck around the $20000

We have a buyer!!!

SOUNDS GOOD, SO IF IT'S ENGINERED WITH GOOD WORKMAN SHIP AROUND 10-12K

oh well, i think i might as well put it up for sale, so if anyone is interested plz pm me.