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light small motor

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:43 pm
by Rhett
Ive just spent the afternoon wandering through the wreckers looking for a motor but can't find one that suits my needs. Im looking for a front wheel drive motor and auto in the smallest, lightest package possible. sub 1l would be good and four or less cylinders. It dosent matter whether its injected or not, probly easyer if it wasn't. Full alloy block would be good too.
Has any one got any thoughts?
It is for a project that will be cool. :cool:

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:45 pm
by Micka
Smart car?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:57 pm
by tweak'e
there is a whole range of small car motors, usually 550cc 3cyl, restricted in power, so you can easly get far more out of them.

example http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2346/printArticle.html

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:02 pm
by bigcam
dihatsu chirade? 3 cyl 1 litre (i think) cheap as chips.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:03 pm
by MARKx4
May not be alloy block, but the old dihatsu cherade has a 3 cyl and they also offered it in a turbo version if you wanted a little more power.

Here it is in non turbo and turbo http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-Daih ... ticle.html

I know you want a auto, i havent read the full link i posted but i noticed it mentions a 5 speed manual but there is a 2 speed auto, i know that cause i used to own one many of years ago.

Mark.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:14 pm
by REDNUT
mini 998 with auto gearbox?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:15 pm
by want33s
Honda City......

You building a kids buggy?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:17 pm
by RUFF
REDNUT wrote:mini 998 with auto gearbox?
And similar in weight to a Commodore V6 and Turbo 700.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:18 pm
by RUFF
Rhett are you after something with Power or not?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:38 pm
by alien
suzuki made plenty of small engines for the mightyboy.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:41 pm
by mickyd555
I know where you can get a whole charade with auto for $550. It drives but has no rego

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:44 pm
by BadMav
Just thinkin outside the box a bit, how about a motor bike engine? I know no auto but compact, light and good power to weight.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:43 pm
by Rhett
It doesent need heeps of power, as it will have loads of gearing and only 33'-35" tires. but cheap and easy to find would be good. I thought of the charade but couldn't find one at the wreckers. Bike motor would be good if I could get a quad one with shaft drive and reverse but I think that would be$$$.
550 for the charade has me intrested.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:04 pm
by pcman
earlyish barinas came out with a 3cyl 1l engine

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:16 pm
by BundyRumandCoke
The 3 cyl Charade motors are not all alloy, they have a cast iron block. They are also prone to overheating, and can blow between cylinders across the head gasket, if they havent been looked after. Thats what happened to my daughters Charade.

Having said that, the motors are light, 2 of us lifted hers into place when it was replaced.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:22 pm
by Rhett
Two people to lift :!: :!: I hope the box was on it too. I throw my serria motors on my shoulder and im not a real big bloke.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:23 pm
by REDNUT
RUFF wrote:
REDNUT wrote:mini 998 with auto gearbox?
And similar in weight to a Commodore V6 and Turbo 700.
and probably rather colectable and worth quite a bit these days

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:39 pm
by 85lux
gsxr750, 4cyl, super light, sequential box. missing reverse gear though. and not auto...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:51 pm
by RUFF
85lux wrote:gsxr750, 4cyl, super light, sequential box. missing reverse gear though. and not auto...
Thats actually what i was thinking. Wouldnt be hard to mate it to a FWD Auto either i doubt. They mate them to zook gearboxes.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:09 pm
by OIIIIIIIO
Mid 80's Charades also make a 2cylinder engine, used to have one that run a geny.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:46 pm
by droopypete

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:52 am
by DamTriton
Left field....Subaru 1600cc/1800cc with automatic.

Not the smallest, but short, and definitely light (no engine hoist, simply 2 average sized guys)

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:29 am
by RUFF
DAMKIA wrote:Left field....Subaru 1600cc/1800cc with automatic.

Not the smallest, but short, and definitely light (no engine hoist, simply 2 average sized guys)
Thats defianatly not short. He is after an E-W motor not a N-S.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:50 am
by 351ciofgrunt
I'd say either Daihatsu Charade or Suzuki Swift motors are pretty small fwd's.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:29 am
by flyinwall
subaru sherpa or i have a pulsar motor and auto here if your interested (cheap)

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:46 am
by chimpboy

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:08 am
by Tazz
What about some sought of old agg quad - can be bought quite cheap come with auto and reverse.
Size wise prob 300 to 900cc and shold be pretty light.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:28 am
by 1MadEngineer

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:41 pm
by Loanrangie
Suzuki capuccino turbo 3cyl.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 pm
by BlueSuzy
Loanrangie wrote:Suzuki capuccino turbo 3cyl.
Thats a rwd setup.

And probably $$


Single cam, Honda D16y- various numbers. Civic coupes are D16y8 vtec also.

Plenty around for cheapish. Good, smooth, powerfull motors for size..

All alloy.

Honda motors are meant to run backwards, but if its for a buggy, turn the motor/gbox around..