Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hi guys I have just got a 4" lift for my GQ and at rest the shocks are at full extension

so can anyone with a 4" measure from the bottom of the rim (15") to the bottom of the guard front and back

mine is Front 890mm and the Back is 905mm

Cheers
Nat

hey nat mines about the same as yours mate and there not that old mate

What do you hope to achieve with the measurement? Sounds like you need shocks to suit the lift

KIWI wrote:What do you hope to achieve with the measurement? Sounds like you need shocks to suit the lift

the shocks I got was to suit

Bugger. May be a simple mitake of grabbing the wrong ones from the shelf. Have you been in touch with who you purchased them from?

Simple!

If the shocks are fully stroked while sitting on flat ground they are too short !!

ok the springs are dobinsons and the shocks are EFS elites dont know if that makes any difference the front fit fine just the back are to short

front part no: 36-5592 back part no: 36-5549

Take them back mate, I'd even suggest upgrading and getting the 6 inch shocks too.

BadMav wrote:Take them back mate, I'd even suggest upgrading and getting the 6 inch shocks too.

yep thats what i'm thinking but i'll go Tough Dog 45mm Adjustables as i can get them cheaper then anything else

The EFS Elites only go up to 3" lift, the EFS Extremes are for 4" and above so sounds like you have been supplied with the wrong shocks. You should be able to get a set of Dobinsons shocks to suit for a lot cheaper then some TD's.

chunks wrote:The EFS Elites only go up to 3" lift, the EFS Extremes are for 4" and above so sounds like you have been supplied with the wrong shocks. You should be able to get a set of Dobinsons shocks to suit for a lot cheaper then some TD's.

if you look in there book the Elites are up to 4" but the shocks i got do the 3" and 4" well thats what it says in the book


http://www.efs4wd.com.au/Online%20Catal ... san/11.pdf

Hmm maybe they've changed, will have to check our catalogue at work.

chunks wrote:Hmm maybe they've changed, will have to check our catalogue at work.

i went into EFS and asked them for shock to suite that was 3 months ago

I have found that too many companies make shocks and list them as 3-4", 5-6" etc when they in fact don't suit these lifts at all.

I ran 3" dobinson coils, and the TJM shocks I was recommended had 25mm travel left, and ran OME L series which were supposedly for a 4" lift.

At the end of the day, IMO, you are better off putting the vehicle on a hoist without shocks to figure out what length you can run, bearing in mind that you may need to extend the bumpstops

KIWI wrote: At the end of the day, IMO, you are better off putting the vehicle on a hoist without shocks to figure out what length you can run, bearing in mind that you may need to extend the bumpstops

Thats what I did and Elites wouldn't have been long enough....it was either Pro Comps or EFS Extremes for 4" lift. I went with Pro Comps.

I ran Procomps in the SWB GQ, and OME in the GU shorty (only because the Pro Comps were brought over from oz for the GQ)
Own a 80 series Cruiser now but will go for Pro Comps again for that

KIWI wrote:I ran Procomps in the SWB GQ, and OME in the GU shorty (only because the Pro Comps were brought over from oz for the GQ)
Own a 80 series Cruiser now but will go for Pro Comps again for that

Traitor!

Still plan on another GU shorty in the future though

What you need to do is take your shocks out and measure them.When you do you need to take the measurement from where the the first washer sits to where the first washer sit on full extension(front)or from where the first washer sits to the centre of the eye (rear).Then let us know

KIWI wrote:At the end of the day, IMO, you are better off putting the vehicle on a hoist without shocks to figure out what length you can run, bearing in mind that you may need to extend the bumpstops

Thats probably the best way to tackle it. Nat, it probably wouldn't hurt to check your front shocks while you're at it.

coxy321 wrote:

KIWI wrote:At the end of the day, IMO, you are better off putting the vehicle on a hoist without shocks to figure out what length you can run, bearing in mind that you may need to extend the bumpstops

Thats probably the best way to tackle it. Nat, it probably wouldn't hurt to check your front shocks while you're at it.

Measure the distances between the bumpstops too, factoring in bumpstop compression, to calculate the compressed shock length you have to work with.

Shock # 36-5592:EFS Elite. Max length:550mm. Min length:325mm. 75mm-100mm lift

Shock # 36-5549: 700mm. Min length:425mm, 75mm-100mm lift


These are from a NZ website showing rec. lift so whoever sold you these was correct, the problem being, as I said earlier, manufacturers try to cover a range of lifts with each shock so they can keep their own product range smaller, and you have found out first hand the problem this creates.

IMO, you are better off buying the coils you want, then measuring for the correct length to avoid these problems, or buying from Suspension Stuff, who has a good knowledge on which shocks suit which coils when you buy from him (a 4" coil in one brand can be very different to a 4" in another brand)

Nat84 wrote:

chunks wrote:Hmm maybe they've changed, will have to check our catalogue at work.

i went into EFS and asked them for shock to suite that was 3 months ago

the efs elite 4 " shocks dont even exist afaik. get 80 series fronts

I spoke to the guy's at carrol springs(EFS) a month ago and he told me elites only go to 3" despite the catalogue and if I intend on flexing the suspension to get extreme's.

oh well anyone want to buy some shock to suite 2-3" lift brand new