Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey all,

Im replacing a dash cluster with a more upper spec model but it has about triple the k's on it. mines got 88 and this has 24xk on it.

97 GXL cruiser Electronic driven speedo

ANyone done a wind back or have any ideas?

Although illegal, I did the same to a 93 falcon I had years ago. It had the standard dash and I put in an S pak dash with tacho/oil/volt gauges.

I carefully stripped the dash, undid the speedo face and physically turned the numbers backwards until they matched the original dash. Put it back together and it all worked fine. took about 2 hrs all up.

The falcon had the old style odometer that rolled to the next number. Not sure if the cruiser has an electronic readout or not.

nabstud wrote:Although illegal, I did the same to a 93 falcon I had years ago. It had the standard dash and I put in an S pak dash with tacho/oil/volt gauges.

I carefully stripped the dash, undid the speedo face and physically turned the numbers backwards until they matched the original dash. Put it back together and it all worked fine. took about 2 hrs all up.

The falcon had the old style odometer that rolled to the next number. Not sure if the cruiser has an electronic readout or not.

Its not illegal.

It becomes a crime if there is intent to defraud.

I've got a similar question for a completely electronic unit (i.e. LCD display).
I'm replacing a cluster without a rev counter for one with a rev counter. The new one has 30,000km more on it.

The real issue being, our diesels are taxed on km travelled. No way am I paying $30,000km worth of tax for distance I haven't driven. It'll take about another 2 years for that vehicle to cover the 30,000km.

for full electronic dash most of the time you have to take it back to dealer i wanted to put a gt dash in my old ba falcon but at had to take it to ford and was gunna cost me 150. Decided it wasnt worth it

I thought on newer cars with electronic readout that the km were recorded On the ecu/computer and not the cluster?

Also, if I replace my cluster with a lower km one, say for upper spec model or because mine is damaged is this illegal?

mike_nofx wrote:I thought on newer cars with electronic readout that the km were recorded On the ecu/computer and not the cluster?

It'd be excellent for me if it was, but I don't think so on my car. Easiest way to find out would be to ask someone who'd done an ECU swap.

KiwiBacon wrote:I've got a similar question for a completely electronic unit (i.e. LCD display).
I'm replacing a cluster without a rev counter for one with a rev counter. The new one has 30,000km more on it.

The real issue being, our diesels are taxed on km travelled. No way am I paying $30,000km worth of tax for distance I haven't driven. It'll take about another 2 years for that vehicle to cover the 30,000km.

Theres a guy on Ebay reprogramming Hilux and 100 series clusters for $200. Will set mileage to whatever you want.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LANDCRUISER-100- ... 500wt_1182

mike_nofx wrote:I thought on newer cars with electronic readout that the km were recorded On the ecu/computer and not the cluster?

Also, if I replace my cluster with a lower km one, say for upper spec model or because mine is damaged is this illegal?

There's nothing illegal about putting a different odometer in with a different reading. Your car could have done 550,000 k's, and you can put one in that says 50,000 k's.

The crime occurs when you attempt to sell the vehicle, and claim it has done 50,000k's, not 550,000k's. Or if you attempt to claim warranty on a vehicle that has exceeded its distance based warranty limit, etc etc.

If you want to stay above board, take photos of the new and old odomerers together, showing both readings, and keep the old odomoter to be sold with the car etc.

put the new dash in then put on stand run in reverse for a bit till it goes back to where you want it

lmao ferris bualer

nicbeer wrote:Hey all,

Im replacing a dash cluster with a more upper spec model but it has about triple the k's on it. mines got 88 and this has 24xk on it.

97 GXL cruiser Electronic driven speedo

ANyone done a wind back or have any ideas?

Your sig says you have a 97 DX and you are replacing the cluster with a 97 GXL. Therefore everything is the same in regards to plugs and the actual instrument itself (speedo). Easiest thing would be to swap the speedos around. Take the front shroud section off so you only have the bare cluster and you will see the instruments are all seperate. On the back you will see a couple of screws behind each instrument, unscrew the ones behind the speedo and it will come out complete through the front. Do the same with yours then screw it into the GXL cluster. Bingo you have the correct odometer reading.

Working in a workshop, we are told that the replacement speedo must be wound forward or backward to the same as the old unit, when replacing a speedo, regardless of whether it is a new or used unit, odometer only or complete cluster.

nicbeer wrote:Hey all,

Im replacing a dash cluster with a more upper spec model but it has about triple the k's on it. mines got 88 and this has 24xk on it.

97 GXL cruiser Electronic driven speedo

ANyone done a wind back or have any ideas?

I have done this twice now. I had to get a stat. dec. and then have a proper workshop carry out the work.

Shadow wrote:There's nothing illegal about putting a different odometer in with a different reading. Your car could have done 550,000 k's, and you can put one in that says 50,000 k's.

The crime occurs when you attempt to sell the vehicle, and claim it has done 50,000k's, not 550,000k's. Or if you attempt to claim warranty on a vehicle that has exceeded its distance based warranty limit, etc etc.

If you want to stay above board, take photos of the new and old odomerers together, showing both readings, and keep the old odomoter to be sold with the car etc.

Yep I can confirm this. When the speedo on my old magna broke and I replaced it with one with a significantly reduced Km's I called DPI (WA) and asked about it. My specific concern was that when i sold it the km's that would go on the transfer paper would be less than what they were when I brought it (Obvious crook is obvious eh?). After getting the run around for a bit - presumibly because they aren't use to people doing the right thing , I got onto someone who said 'its fine, i fact we would rather you did replace it than have a car with a broken speedo but more realistic numbers on the odometer. Just make sure you tell the person who buys it from you about it'

So i did exacly that and never heard a thing after selling it.

Edit: I also asked them to make some sort of note of my enquiry somewhere on my cars rego listing. Whether they did or not....

Coxy321 and CRUSHU - I wonder if thats a state to state difference?

Hang on a minute... you problem is the opposite to mine. The one your putting in has more km's on it which you don't want cos it makes it look like a high KM's POS when you sell it. Now i get it. Ignore my comments, I don't read gooderer after 12h at work. See fester2au's comments

mike_nofx wrote:I thought on newer cars with electronic readout that the km were recorded On the ecu/computer and not the cluster?

Also, if I replace my cluster with a lower km one, say for upper spec model or because mine is damaged is this illegal?

Not sure about the Cruiser, but in the Disco2 the odo is stored in the odo and in the BCU, and if these disagree then the odo flashes to indicate that it has been tampered with.

my speedo stopped working long time ago,

fester2au wrote:

nicbeer wrote:Hey all,

Im replacing a dash cluster with a more upper spec model but it has about triple the k's on it. mines got 88 and this has 24xk on it.

97 GXL cruiser Electronic driven speedo

ANyone done a wind back or have any ideas?

Your sig says you have a 97 DX and you are replacing the cluster with a 97 GXL. Therefore everything is the same in regards to plugs and the actual instrument itself (speedo). Easiest thing would be to swap the speedos around. Take the front shroud section off so you only have the bare cluster and you will see the instruments are all seperate. On the back you will see a couple of screws behind each instrument, unscrew the ones behind the speedo and it will come out complete through the front. Do the same with yours then screw it into the GXL cluster. Bingo you have the correct odometer reading.

Sweet. that was one of the options i was looking at

mike_nofx wrote:I thought on newer cars with electronic readout that the km were recorded On the ecu/computer and not the cluster?

Also, if I replace my cluster with a lower km one, say for upper spec model or because mine is damaged is this illegal?

that is correct however dash has to be linked to ecu using special computer before anything on the dash will work. This is the same for stereo unit on ba's as well i think