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Looking at the Super Wader Snorkel's for sale on E-bay to suit Y60 ,was wondering if anyone is running them and whats your opinion on them.


Cheers Guys.

Depends on where they are made...

Interesting information just released on Safari Snorkle's Site :

http://www.dont-get-burnt.com/

Thanks for the link,very interesting.

Thanks

Fair enough point on the cheaper plastic used, but I wonder if painting would render the UV resistance argument redundant?

Shouldn't it be "don't get burned?"

Dunno how the painting would affect the UV resistance of the plastic, because even with paint you get some UV damage to the underlying plastics- ive had painted plastics go brittle in the sun too- its to do with the loss of plasticizers as well as the UV damage.

Personally- My thoughs on the matter are:

Cost of a Safari Snorkel for my hilux: $600
Cost of a cheapie snorkel: $300

Money Saved: $300

Cost of a full engine and turbo rebuild for a 1KZ-TE: $6500.

Cost of cheap snorkel failing at worst possible moment: $6500

Money now saved: $-6200.....

Thats my thoughts, id rather spend the extra money on a well known brand than take a punt on something unknown from china that could write off your motor...

DarkHorse Vitara wrote:Fair enough point on the cheaper plastic used, but I wonder if painting would render the UV resistance argument redundant?

Good luck getting the paint to stay on..... You need to know your stuff and even then we've seen it peel and crack...

Generally, a good rule of thumb is - you get what you pay for - [when you are not being ripped off of course]

Cheers

There a quite a few other brands out there at the moment.
Some are definitely better than others.

Obviously Safari have been around the longest and there is no doubt with their quality.

The Ironman units seem to be pretty good too.
They put out a press release recently, with the following information:

Ironman Airforce Snorkels are:

• Manufactured from imported premium quality Exxon Mobil Polyethylene ( LLPDE )
  Rotationally molded from precise 2 piece CNC machined aluminium dies offering high quality and precise
  tolerance for fitment
  Not blended with inferior product during production.

The LLPDE material chosen for Ironman Airforce Snorkels is tested by Exxon Mobil for UV stabilisation, impact
strength and stress crack resistance.
Exxon Mobil states the LLPDE used in Ironman Airforce Snorkels is ideal for rotational moulding for applications
requiring excellent dimensional control and low warpage.
All Ironman Airforce snorkels come complete with installation hardware, detailed templates and fitting
instructions as well as a 3 year warranty.

I haven't seen, fitted or tested any of the other brands, so I won't comment on them.

ferrit wrote:Cost of cheap snorkel failing at worst possible moment: $6500

What sort of failure are you thinking might occur?

craz3d wrote:Shouldn't it be "don't get burned?"

"Burnt" is UK English, "burned" is US English.

chimpboy wrote:

ferrit wrote:Cost of cheap snorkel failing at worst possible moment: $6500

What sort of failure are you thinking might occur?

Say you knock your cheap snorkel on a tree offoading- doesnt look like much, but its split between two mounting points on the back, opening a hole into it.

Then you go into a deep water crossing, crack lets water in, engine Hydraulics, Kiss your engine goodbye.

ferrit wrote:

chimpboy wrote:

ferrit wrote:Cost of cheap snorkel failing at worst possible moment: $6500

What sort of failure are you thinking might occur?

Say you knock your cheap snorkel on a tree offoading- doesnt look like much, but its split between two mounting points on the back, opening a hole into it.

Then you go into a deep water crossing, crack lets water in, engine Hydraulics, Kiss your engine goodbye.

I put a massive crack on my genuine safari mounted on my GQ......the bunnings flares didn't move.........

more expensive is not always better, and in terms of your cost breakdonw, the cost of the more expensive snorkel failing at the same time will be more expensive

Bunnings sell 90mm white PVC drainage pipe and an array of bends and joiners.... It's paintable and they look awesome!
Bunnings even sells the paint.

ferrit wrote:

chimpboy wrote:

ferrit wrote:Cost of cheap snorkel failing at worst possible moment: $6500

What sort of failure are you thinking might occur?

Say you knock your cheap snorkel on a tree offoading- doesnt look like much, but its split between two mounting points on the back, opening a hole into it.

Then you go into a deep water crossing, crack lets water in, engine Hydraulics, Kiss your engine goodbye.

I reckon you've got a bigger problem with the hardware between the snorkel and the airbox than the body of the snorkel cracking.

Even on Safari snorkels the piping can deteriorate with heat and vibration leaving gaps for water entry.

ferrit wrote:Dunno how the painting would affect the UV resistance of the plastic, because even with paint you get some UV damage to the underlying plastics- ive had painted plastics go brittle in the sun too- its to do with the loss of plasticizers as well as the UV damage.

Personally- My thoughs on the matter are:

Cost of a Safari Snorkel for my hilux: $600
Cost of a cheapie snorkel: $300

Money Saved: $300

Cost of a full engine and turbo rebuild for a 1KZ-TE: $6500.

Cost of cheap snorkel failing at worst possible moment: $6500

Money now saved: $-6200.....

Thats my thoughts, id rather spend the extra money on a well known brand than take a punt on something unknown from china that could write off your motor...

And the likelihood???

Most people only wade up to the level where a snorkel is necessary very rarely. If you were at all worried, it would take all of 30 secs to test the snorkel is sealing before wading each time.

Ruffy wrote:Bunnings sell 90mm white PVC drainage pipe and an array of bends and joiners.... It's paintable and they look awesome!
Bunnings even sells the paint.

But what's the UV rating of pvc piping?