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okay so so when ever im sitting on a hill or driving a one sometimes my car will stall it is a 60 series 4.0 diesel would this be a mechanical or electrical problem i am thinking more to the electrical side but if any one else has had this would appreciate any help or opinions on what it could be.

stewy 60 series wrote:okay so so when ever im sitting on a hill or driving a one sometimes my car will stall it is a 60 series 4.0 diesel would this be a mechanical or electrical problem i am thinking more to the electrical side but if any one else has had this would appreciate any help or opinions on what it could be.

mechanical, as the only electrical component that could stop it is the electronic fuel cutoff...

there is not much in the way of electrial bits that would cause your diesel cruiser to cut out on a hill.
I'd be checking your pump and tank pickup.

how do i check if the fuel pump is any good or should i just take it to a mechanic

I had something similar, would stall on a slight incline

could be your carby fuel level, fuel pump struggling, blocked lines, stuck needle and seat?

Im not sure if I have solved mine as I just finished installing a new electric pump, regulator and set the fuel float level, just need to get a new pressure gauge.

c110gtr wrote:I had something similar, would stall on a slight incline

could be your carby fuel level, fuel pump struggling, blocked lines, stuck needle and seat?

Im not sure if I have solved mine as I just finished installing a new electric pump, regulator and set the fuel float level, just need to get a new pressure gauge.

Oh this is a most helpful reply. You reckon he should have a good look at his spark plugs and ignition leads too? Just to be sure?

Good chance it's a blocked fuel line. check the water seperator (half way long the chassis, driver side), the main filter on the engine, and inside the banjo fitting on the back of the primer pump check for a gauss filter which could also be blocked.
Also check that the primper plunger itself isn't leaking when you pump it.

Other than that look for any external diesel leaks around the pump, injectors and what not. These inline pumps rely on an airless prime to operate. even the slightest bit of air can stop the whole thing.

Also forgot that if it's a real steep incline (like off road, not just an onroad hill) the 60's had a problem where it would starve for fuel if there is less than about 1/4 of a tank of diesel. The solution is to make sure you go off road with a full tank.

oldmate wrote: Also forgot that if it's a real steep incline (like off road, not just an onroad hill) the 60's had a problem where it would starve for fuel if there is less than about 1/4 of a tank of diesel. The solution is to make sure you go off road with a full tank.

or run an lpg motor... and diesel owners give petrol owners crap about not running on angles

RAY185 wrote:

c110gtr wrote:I had something similar, would stall on a slight incline

could be your carby fuel level, fuel pump struggling, blocked lines, stuck needle and seat?

Im not sure if I have solved mine as I just finished installing a new electric pump, regulator and set the fuel float level, just need to get a new pressure gauge.

Oh this is a most helpful reply. You reckon he should have a good look at his spark plugs and ignition leads too? Just to be sure?

Can't discount the rotor button.

c110gtr wrote:I had something similar, would stall on a slight incline

could be your carby fuel level, fuel pump struggling, blocked lines, stuck needle and seat?

Im not sure if I have solved mine as I just finished installing a new electric pump, regulator and set the fuel float level, just need to get a new pressure gauge.

can you post a pic of your worlds first carburetted diesel engine please ?

mine has always been pretty on good hills off-road. but my primer pump no longer bleeds any more so I think sure that it is screwed because i recently changed my fuel filter and i could not bleed it after that i had to tow start it.

stewy 60 series wrote:mine has always been pretty on good hills off-road. but my primer pump no longer bleeds any more so I think sure that it is screwed because i recently changed my fuel filter and i could not bleed it after that i had to tow start it.

there's your problem. replace primer pump, prime system, all good.

If you haven't found any fuel issues......
Check your oil level!
2H engines have an oil pressure cut out on them. If the oil pressure drops off then the engine will shut itself down.

Dan

Check the water trap. It's probably full of water and a slight incline means your picking some up. Should drain it every few months anyway and more often in wet weather.

the only thing is im not it would be the primer pump since it hasn't worked since i got the car over 2 years ago but then i guess it could of busted a seal and be letting air in. When i find the problem i will let you all know what it was if i find it

stewy 60 series wrote:the only thing is im not it would be the primer pump since it hasn't worked since i got the car over 2 years ago but then i guess it could of busted a seal and be letting air in. When i find the problem i will let you all know what it was if i find it

Wouldn't matter if the seal wasn't even there. As soon as you screw it down the plunger seats into the base. Mine was stuffed in my 75 ser and didn't draw in air, just pissed diesel out the neck if it was pumped.

yea it isnt sucking in air anyway but it did piss out fuel when i opened it

My 80 doesn't like starting on or reversing down hill and the revs drop off fair bit with foot on brake but hasn't stalled to date. Opposite when going forward down hill. Was told most likely fuel pump. Oh yeah diesel not petty.

okay this problem has gotten alot worse it now does it just driving along a flat road and has done it to me a few times on the highway I have replaced the little motor that moves the rod back and forth and it has done nothing so is there anyway the fuel pump can be tested and how big of a job is it to put another one in

BadMav wrote:

stewy 60 series wrote:the only thing is im not it would be the primer pump since it hasn't worked since i got the car over 2 years ago but then i guess it could of busted a seal and be letting air in. When i find the problem i will let you all know what it was if i find it

Wouldn't matter if the seal wasn't even there. As soon as you screw it down the plunger seats into the base. Mine was stuffed in my 75 ser and didn't draw in air, just pissed diesel out the neck if it was pumped.

funny, the one in my 45 leaked, caused all the symptoms listed, and once replaced, symptoms went away permanently...

well I do have another primer pump it is not a stock one by the look of it either I might throw it on during the week some time and see how it goes. would still appreciate any other suggestion because I really need this fixed

Ruffy wrote:If you haven't found any fuel issues......
Check your oil level!
2H engines have an oil pressure cut out on them. If the oil pressure drops off then the engine will shut itself down.

Dan

I'll rephrase this... If the module THINKS the engine has low oil pressure it will cut off....

Also, if the engine or alternator has a bad earth the can back feed through the EDIC wiring which will cause the EDIC motor to wind back (reversing polarity) and the engine to shut down.

When it stalls what posistion is the EDIC in??

To test if it is an EDIC fault or indeed the EDIC shutting the engine down, then simply remove the rod entirely and drive the car. If it still cuts out then it's obviously not an EDIC based fault. If it doesn't cut out then it's in the electronics and not the fuel.

Dan

ok well when it was stalling the EDIC was moving forward in the stop position shutting down the fuel so i disconnected the EDIC and now it is fine the only thing is that i have to stall it to turn it off so it the anyway i can wire a kill switch or something to cut the fuel instead

replace the earths to the engine and chassis.

try and fix the problem at hand and not bypass.

Its a simple device to operate and diagnose