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Found these nice looking winchs from a pommy site.

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/p0/red-hydra ... 398016.htm

Cost $2900au for the top of the range item wonder if there worth it ?

They look the goods. Nearly as fast as the tripple motor low mount of the rocky guys. That thing is seriously fast. 40klmh to winch in.

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why do ants smell funny when you squish them?

It's similar in specs to a Milemarker (or OX)

---> Both have 6:1 reduction planetary gearbox's.

---> Milemarker 10500lb winch has a 17.9 cu in /rev (295cc/rev) motor

---> Milemarker test data proves 100 bar (1450psi) is required to get full line pull.


They fit 160cc/rev or 100cc/rev motors depending on model and state that 200 bar (2900psi) is required for full pull.

If you consider the 100cc/rev motor is 3 times smaller in displacement than the Milemarker you would expect theoretically for the pressure to be 3 times higher, ie 3 x 100 bar = 300 bar, (not 200 bar). I know that they use roller bearings in the RED winches to reduce friction compared to the plastic bushes in the milemarker, but the pressure still seems a bit lower than i would have assumed.

--> 200 bar seems about right for the 160cc/rev motor however.


My RUNVA has a 33:1 gearbox and 50cc/rev motor which is (33/6) 5.5 times more reduction than the milemarker but the motor is also (295/50) 5.9 times smaller so fairly similar.


Their crank drive setup looks ok.



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The crank driven set up does look nice. Curious how they keep oil too the pump, can it suck it from where ever the storage tank is ? Theres a second toothed belt running to the botom of the engine wonder what thats for ?
I rang them up on friday for some more info, there winch Guru was away. will try them next week for some more info.
Got some info on the milemaker Type R winch too,
The complete Type R winch with motor is £875 excluding VAT.
The cost to ship one to you would be £167.90.
Works out to about $1800 au
The quality of the RED winch is impressive will have a cat with them and sus out the best options

alien wrote:

that link wrote:Please contact us with ant questions you have in the meantime.

why do ants smell funny when you squish them?

alien wrote:

that link wrote:Please contact us with ant questions you have in the meantime.

why do ants smell funny when you squish them?

Formic acid, I believe.

AFeral wrote:The crank driven set up does look nice. Curious how they keep oil too the pump, can it suck it from where ever the storage tank is ? Theres a second toothed belt running to the botom of the engine wonder what thats for ?
I rang them up on friday for some more info, there winch Guru was away. will try them next week for some more info.
Got some info on the milemaker Type R winch too,
The complete Type R winch with motor is £875 excluding VAT.
The cost to ship one to you would be £167.90.
Works out to about $1800 au
The quality of the RED winch is impressive will have a cat with them and sus out the best options

does the cost of the winch include the crank driven pump and lines etc ?

Thats for the type R Milemarker winch only.
Had a look on their web site they do a complete Pto system for 2450gbp about $4200 aud. The speed is comparable to a twin motor giglepin set up they reckon.

and the red terrier model winch is $2900 correct

does the red inc the pump etc ?

the red claims 15m per min at 4 ton and 20 m per min a 3ton which is quick as , i take it the mile marker is similar ?

Feral are you still using a UK laptop?

want33s wrote:Feral are you still using a UK laptop?

No, If I was there would be pound signs not gbp