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GU Wagon body lift question

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:53 pm
by Playn
Finally got my GU 4.2. It is a late 99 TD42T and I was hoping to raise the body 2". Can this be done without affecting the drivers airbag and is there much different to the GQ. Thanks

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:02 pm
by turbo gu
check with DOT.
In NSW not legal to do one on airbaged car.

Also why bother?

You can run 37/38s in standard wheel arches with 3 inch lift.

gu body lift

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:10 pm
by GU BOOST
my brother just got his passed was a series 4. qld but

Re: gu body lift

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:36 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
GU BOOST wrote:my brother just got his passed was a series 4. qld but
very suprising considering Any vehicle with an air bag is illegal to fit a body lift kit into in QLD, but i have seen some weird and wonderful things overlooked and passed by QLD DOT.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:51 pm
by Fredrick
Definately NO body lift approval, even with Engineers Report for air bag SRS vehicles in NSw
^ also as above why would you ?

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:52 am
by ludacris
Fredrick wrote:Definately NO body lift approval, even with Engineers Report for air bag SRS vehicles in NSw
^ also as above why would you ?
Of course different from state to state but I have heard if the air bag module is in the cab like some current fourbies then there is no problems body lifting them.

Cris

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:49 pm
by Rhysta
If that model car out with no airbag from factory you will need that steering wheel and then you can go about looking at getting it passed.

Have seen it done with a Disco, we swapped the wheel over to the model with out vicroads kicked up a bit of stink but it was passed in the end.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:20 pm
by toughnut
Yeah. I'm curious why you'd want to put a body lift in a GU. Its really not required to fit larger rubber and it just makes the center of gravity higher. Just a 3-4in lift is all thats required to fit much larger rubber under the guards and it will ride and handle much nicer. All the mods that you may have done or heard of for a GQ in the past don't count for a GU. ;)

Re: gu body lift

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:14 am
by BryanGUIV
SuperiorEngineering wrote:
GU BOOST wrote:my brother just got his passed was a series 4. qld but
very suprising considering Any vehicle with an air bag is illegal to fit a body lift kit into in QLD, but i have seen some weird and wonderful things overlooked and passed by QLD DOT.

It is perfectly legal to body lift a gu with airbags in qld , all you have to do is get the right form from dot and apply in writing stating what materials u will be using eg. High tensile bolts, blah blah, then they send u back the letter sayying if they approve or not, then u do the body lift and get it inspected over the pits where they go over the whole vehicle not just the body lift and if it passes they stamp the letter of approval and u keep it in the vehicle, this is what I went through to get mine passed and I also know of abrand new hilux with air bags on the 4wd action forum that has been passed. And before anyone asks why body lift? Its for a duramax conversion.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:48 am
by Playn
Thanks for all those who have replied.

I am surprised regarding the feedback for body lift. I know that a GQ is different but I was quite happy with the 2' lift combined with the 2' suspension lift and 35's as they worked well and they only thing they could get me for was the 35's however they were only used for weekends and Fraser.

In regards to legality in QLD, is a 4" suspension lift legal considering all the other mods you have to do to cater for it and do you have to do any other mods to fit 35's under it.

Sorry about what is most likely a simple answer however that is why I have asked. Most blokes on the forum are pretty knowledgeable.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:18 pm
by toughnut
It is way less modification to do a 4in lift in a GU than doing a body lift. As for engineering it is also easier to get someone to engineer the 4in lift than the body lift for the same reasons. All you need to do for a 4in lift is extended brake lines and caster correction. Maybe extended bump stops if your shocks are longer than they are. Then get your car engineered for the lift and tires at the same time then no worries from the law.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:52 pm
by BryanGUIV
4 inch cannot be engineered in qld it is a maximum of 2 inch susp or 2 inch body or both combined. It is surprisingly not that hard to body lift a gu wagon it took me a day in my garage with 3 jacks by myself, raising the bullbar and rear bar was a bit of a hassle and took another half a day, I didn't have to do anything with the gear levers only had to redrill holes for the handbrake cable and pull the bottom 50 mm of the radiator shroud but in saying all that I would prefer not to have a body lift if I didn't need it.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:52 pm
by toughnut
You're allowed 50mm total without engineering. You can get more than that engineered in QLD. Funnily enough the ADR's don't specify directly with suspension lifts. Only with suspension drops. It may have changed in the last couple of years though.

I went through all of this with my race truck up in Townsville. I spoke with the engineers before doing any mods on my truck which saved me a whole lot of trouble later on. So your best bet is to talk to an engineer before you make the changes and then you'll have no problems when it comes to get the certificate whichever way you go.

Re: GU Wagon body lift question

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:56 pm
by JOHNZ
Playn wrote:Finally got my GU 4.2. It is a late 99 TD42T and I was hoping to raise the body 2". Can this be done without affecting the drivers airbag and is there much different to the GQ. Thanks
Mate there is so much misinformation in this thread i almost pissed myself.

2" body lift in a gu is easy to do & can be DOT approved.
Forget getting it engineeered than means jack shit in QLD.
Engineer can say it is safe but he cannot make it legal.
The max you can legally do in QLD is 2' suspension & 2" bodylift & 15mm increase in the tyres. [Just read the DOT brochure ] spells it all out.
I know there many fourbys in QLD with 4" & even 6" lifts but they are not legal & run the risk of being defected .
Cheers

Re: GU Wagon body lift question

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:05 am
by BryanGUIV
JOHNZ wrote:
Playn wrote:Finally got my GU 4.2. It is a late 99 TD42T and I was hoping to raise the body 2". Can this be done without affecting the drivers airbag and is there much different to the GQ. Thanks
Mate there is so much misinformation in this thread i almost pissed myself.

2" body lift in a gu is easy to do & can be DOT approved.
Forget getting it engineeered than means jack shit in QLD.
Engineer can say it is safe but he cannot make it legal.
The max you can legally do in QLD is 2' suspension & 2" bodylift & 15mm increase in the tyres. [Just read the DOT brochure ] spells it all out.
I know there many fourbys in QLD with 4" & even 6" lifts but they are not legal & run the risk of being defected .
Cheers
X2 engineering doesn't mean shit in qld 2"sus 2"body that's it

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:56 am
by calelux
dont do it mate, buy some coil packers....