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Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:40 pm
by TOJO2NISSAN
Hey guys,

My boss has got a job on a mine site and we just trying to figure out what vehicles he needs to buy.

He is buying a bobcat which weighs 2800kgs or so and also attachments and is putting it on a 4500kg rated trailer.

now the question is we need a car to tow the bobcat that can also get mine certified. he has an f250 which can tow 4500kgs but he is not sure if it can get certified as it is silver and we think they have to be white.

i suggested to him a patrol ute. put the attachments on the tray and just tow the bobcat.

this only has to be on site, not on the road as we can tow it with our truck or f250.any ideas would be great and if anyone knows much about mine rules would be good to hear from you.

so yeh hope to hear some good info :D

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:39 pm
by BundyRumandCoke
Theres a mob in Rockhampton called Minecorp vehicle solutions. They fit out vehicles to minesite specs. They may be able to give you some info.

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:15 pm
by TOJO2NISSAN
yeh theres a couple of mobs in brissy that do it, just gotta decide on which vehicle

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:22 pm
by Tiny
TOJO2NISSAN wrote:yeh theres a couple of mobs in brissy that do it, just gotta decide on which vehicle
i think the point is to ring on of those mobs and ask THEM for a suggestion ;)

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:51 pm
by Zeyphly
I've never known colours of the utes to ever be something to worry about. I work for Barrick and we have a line borer who comes to site in a jet black dodge ram and at another place i have worked we used to run any coloured landcruiser we could get underground. As long as it has reflective tape, revolving light and maybe fire suppression maybe due to where on the mine site you are going.

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:22 am
by jaztaz
Maybe an Isuzu (or something comparable) 4 or 5tn light truck. Ramps on the back & racks for all the gear.

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:17 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
I would suggest contacting the mine directly.
get the good info not the 2nd or 3rd hand shit.

But from my experience, you can often be escorted onto site by a mine spec vehicle.
Eg you drive on in a hilux or patrol and escort the F250 or truck to the job site. drop the bobcat off or whatever then park out the gate.

If it is a once off job or not all the time i would do this.

But speak with the mine itself.
I have also seen some circumstances where they allow a petrol powered vehicle to be approved or a vehicle that isnt white.
So there is hope there.

Cheers

Twon

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:13 am
by chunderlicious
Barnsey wrote:There's nothing in the Qld Mining and Quarrying Act 99 or Regs 01 that state what sort of vehicle you can or cannot have on a mine site.

This includes ROPS / FOPS, amber lights, sand flags, colour etc.

AS4801 covers it all..........that is; risk managment.

So, what that means is that every individual mine site decides on what vehicles they allow on their sites, according to thier risk assessment. Coal is diferent to hard rock, UG diferent to open cut, etc.

In short, .............ask the mine what their specs are for LVs.

It will vary from site to site. Doubt whether they'd let a petrol on site though. I wouldn't.

bam... thats it there, rops/fops changes from site to site, my old man has had a green a blue a white a silver a charcoal patrol, pajero, hilux, cruiser etc. Leighton has a few greens. colour normally isnt important on most sites. the big things are diesel and have your flashing light. if travelling on haul roads you will need a uhf and most require a flag. Call the mine and ask, they might not like F trucks.

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:08 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
Some are even getting right into GPS units for collision avoidance.

It seriously makes me wonder just how over regulated it can get?
How does the general population operate without collision avoidance? -They use their brains.

Often rules will change too depending on where on site you are going? industrial areas vs out near the actual dragline etc.

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:19 pm
by stinger
As others have said, you need to contact the mining company in question. There is a large range of extremes on mine sites , depending on who is at the helm.... BMA for example have Light vehicle standards that includes colours, identification, ROPS/FOPS, wheel chocks, fire suppression, GPS tracking, load restraint, etc, etc, etc were are others do not care at all even a bicycle is fine.

Barnsey, Sounds like you are in safety game??? Nice to know there are others out there also interested in 4WDs.

Cheers,
Stinger

Re: Towing rates for being on a mine site

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:24 pm
by -Scott-
Slightly OT, but coming back from a country trip yesterday, driving through some roadworks, there were masses of orange marker poles, orange bunting, orange equipment and a worker in an orange "hi vis" vest. I only realised he was there when he moved, because other than that, his orange vest blended in very nicely.

On that site, I would've thought a yellow vest would be the only sensible option.