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Roll cage hardware
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:40 pm
by Petes
Hi All,
I am after some saddle, and pin and eye mounts for some additions to my roll cage, similar to the ones on the attatched link.
Does anyone know anywhere over here where I can get some? This is just for some extra protection bars, and I wanted to be able to mount them. My random google-ing hasnt really got me anywhere in Oz.
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Rgds
Pete
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:57 pm
by Black Bull
I can supply you these
Bout $70 bucks each. and I've got some off being tested by Cams, so should be legal for comps too (CCDA is already fine with them)
Available to suit .120" wall tube from 1" - 2" in 1/4" increments
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:00 pm
by Petes
They look pretty good. Will pm you shortly.
Rgds
Pete
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:33 am
by Wambat
is that basically a round connector so you can remove and attach certain bars in your system for a comp, and then have less for road driving?? so that your legal on road and really safe off??
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:18 pm
by Black Bull
Pretty Much, yep
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:37 pm
by Wambat
sounds like a good bit of hard ware then for external cages. as i wan to make an exo cage, but want it removable.
will be looking into this when i am ready to make it,
Al
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:49 am
by Black Bull
WA has already done it, and soon I imagine it'll happen here to but internal cages in cars on the road are on the way out.
Rather than police what is already in the rules they'll do what Western Australia did,
and throw it in the "too hard basket" like most Governments do and put a blanket ban on it
In WA any cage forward of the "B" pillar is not legal on road, and in NSW at least side intrusion bars are not legal on road.
Cams Rules call for any "Join" in a cage to be able to withstand a 6 G lateral impact.
So I went hunting for something that will do that and will be easily removable.
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:35 pm
by Wambat
mmmm yes, the government does have a habit of not understanding the auto industry, and that there are alot of people out there trying to do the right thing.
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:23 am
by MrGrim
might be a silly question but have you gat any plans for a cover or blank as such to cover the end when the bar is removed and your just left with a potential sharp stub
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:53 pm
by Black Bull
MrGrim wrote:might be a silly question but have you gat any plans for a cover or blank as such to cover the end when the bar is removed and your just left with a potential sharp stub
For now I've only need to use them to make external cage sections removable, but yeah I can't see why not. Will look into it
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:17 pm
by Tiny
bond roll bars near windsor make a neat option in a bunch of angles to suit. They are CAMS compliant and had no issues with them used on cages in CCDA events
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:10 am
by Black Bull
May be wrong, but from what I know of the ones Bonds have, they're only to remove individual sections, ie: Stays and side intrusion bars, not whole sections of the cage. that and he usually doesn't want anything to do with a cage unless it's one to his design for Cams Specs in a car. he may however sell just the joins as mentioned.
Might pop up the road and see him when he get's back
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:58 am
by Tiny
Black Bull wrote:May be wrong, but from what I know of the ones Bonds have, they're only to remove individual sections, ie: Stays and side intrusion bars, not whole sections of the cage. that and he usually doesn't want anything to do with a cage unless it's one to his design for Cams Specs in a car. he may however sell just the joins as mentioned.
Might pop up the road and see him when he get's back
he used to sell just the joints, I had him set up a heap of cages back in the day, but at the time we had some pretty good orders so he was happy to help
in terms of using them to remove sections of a cage,, we had them set up so all the peices were connected with these joints so it was a simple excersise to remove the front section of the cage and the stays if needed, the b pillar bar was a little more diffficult but achievable
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:44 am
by Black Bull
Oh ok, that makes sense.
Don't quote me as I haven't read the Cams rule book for a few years,
but in most classes new cages have to be of welded steel construction now.
Some of the "Production" classes can have removable ones though I think
Re: Roll cage hardware
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:21 pm
by Tiny
Black Bull wrote:Oh ok, that makes sense.
Don't quote me as I haven't read the Cams rule book for a few years,
but in most classes new cages have to be of welded steel construction now.
Some of the "Production" classes can have removable ones though I think
lol yeah theres a lot of back in the day
the ones you have in for testing look horn though
I will prolly use the ones bond do for my exo when I get around to it simply due to the durability in a rock rash sense.