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I'm looking at getting a lock-right locker from the states for the front of my GQ. My question is it gives only one Axel type from a dropped down menu for the nissans- H233B 31 spline. I have a 94 GQ wagon tb42e. Is this the correct Axel?
Cheers

Hi

Yes - 31 spline is what you want.
The rear axle comes with 33 spline.


Chris

What are people's honest opinion of these lock right lockers i have seen them on ebay here.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT

I was thinking about buying these and fitting them front and rear instead of air locker's, would this be wise ?

Anybody on here used 1 of these in the front of a GQ before and if so what are your thought's about the con's and pro's of having it fitted.

I was just thinking they would be a cheaper alternative than say ARB or TJM locker's and they would be sealed in the housing so no seal's etc to stuff up.

Would i be better fitted these or leaving LSD rear and getting an ARB or TJM air locker for the front.

Or 1 of these for the rear and an air locker for the front.

I've always had ARB air lokkers front and rear.
With both lokkers in steering is extremely difficult, no chance of getting around switch backs, even with the rear lokker in steering suffers.
I rekkon a lockrite in the front would be painful, in the back may be OK, but a shimmed up LSD also works well and is cheap.
I'm currently trying a shimmed rear LSD with a front air lokker because I was getting too much rear wheel spin on wet tar roads.
This combo seems to be OK so far, but I do have and air lokker to go back in if it;s no good.

Cheers.

MAV-RIK wrote:What are people's honest opinion of these lock right lockers i have seen them on ebay here.

Have you searched on here for this info? No? Well, there's a heap of threads on here answering your exact question.

And for my tech input, i have one in the front of my GQ and am more than happy with it. No dramas with steering, and no issues with it disengaging at the wrong time etc. Going off past threads, i'd say that 95% of auto locker owners are more than happy with the product, and the remaining 5% haven't installed it properly.

Gucool wrote:I've always had ARB air lokkers front and rear.
With both lokkers in steering is extremely difficult, no chance of getting around switch backs, even with the rear lokker in steering suffers.
I rekkon a lockrite in the front would be painful, in the back may be OK, but a shimmed up LSD also works well and is cheap.

I'm sure that if you read up on how the "auto locker" units work (eg. Lokka/Lock-Rite), you would understand that steering is not an issue, neither is wheelspin in the rear whilst cornering.

coxy321 wrote:I'm sure that if you read up on how the "auto locker" units work (eg. Lokka/Lock-Rite), you would understand that steering is not an issue, neither is wheelspin in the rear whilst cornering.

I looked into these a number of years ago and went for air lokkers.
So please enlinghten me, have they changed.
If your climbing a shitty hill in your 4x4 and your wheels are spinning and need to turn do these lok-rites disengage or allow slip?

(4. It should be understood that only when there is an external force being applied to a wheel to make it turn faster than the rest of the drive train will LOKKA allow one wheel to differentiate. Slippery surfaces where one wheel would normally break traction in an open diff cause LOKKA to stay locked - even with one or both wheels in the air, LOKKA will remain locked.) from lock rite web site.
Are they hard to steer in this situation?

I'd rather be swtching my air lokker off than backing up!
(I might try one off these in the rear when I get some cash)

Cheers

The name is a bit misguiding, they should be called "auto-unlockers". With the correct driving style, you can make the locker unlock.

I don't think I (or anyone here) was comparing the auto locker with an Air Locker, so that doesn't even come into the equation.

In regards to wheel spin, what situations are you referring to? (wheels in the air, loss of traction on one wheel etc.)

coxy321 wrote:I don't think I (or anyone here) was comparing the auto locker with an Air Locker, so that doesn't even come into the equation.

MAV-RIK wrote:I was thinking about buying these and fitting them front and rear instead of air locker's, would this be wise ?

Just adding my experience's.

coxy321 wrote:In regards to wheel spin, what situations are you referring to? (wheels in the air, loss of traction on one wheel etc.)

165RWKW + wet tar road + air lokker not engaged = wheel spin and no foward motion.
(I don't want to engaged my lokker on the way to work)

I understand that the the lock-rite is really and unlokker, which is probably good for a wet or dry tar road.
But how does a front lock-rite preform whilst trying to turn on greasy muddy hill, is it difficult to steer?
How do they preform all round whilst lifting wheels rock crawling, do they unlock because you have traction?

Still think they're not much better than a shimmed Nissan LSD in the rear.

Cheers

Gucool wrote:But how does a front lock-rite preform whilst trying to turn on greasy muddy hill, is it difficult to steer?
How do they preform all round whilst lifting wheels rock crawling, do they unlock because you have traction?

Still think they're not much better than a shimmed Nissan LSD in the rear.

Cheers

They're not exactly as unpredictable as i think you're depicting them to be. I generally use mine more so in wet/muddy low traction driving as i do bugger all rock climbin/crawling. In these conditions steering is no better or worse than an air locker, as both axles are tied together (but it shits all over an open centre). I can say that my unit has ever unlocked while i've been doing this sort of driving either.

On the 2-3 time's that i've picked up a front wheel, again, the locker has worked as its supposed to - no "slipping" or popping out. Wheel traction isn't the factor that unlocks the mechanism here, its wheel speed (as you said before). The installation instructions for the units actually get you to do this as a test before driving the vehicle (on a jack/axle stand of course).

I'm also of the opinion that when under high load (either accelerating OR decellerating), that the forces applied to the ratchet mechanism and dowels is great enough that it is held together, ie. locked, so there's no chance of it unlocking by accident.

don't get a Powertrax Lockrite i had one, blew it to pieces

get a 4WD Systems locka, they gurantee them with any engine, any tyre size, so you can't go wrong, if you blow it up, they replace it.

MyGQ wrote:don't get a Powertrax Lockrite i had one, blew it to pieces

get a 4WD Systems locka, they gurantee them with any engine, any tyre size, so you can't go wrong, if you blow it up, they replace it.

x2 stay aussie and strong........ not something that comes from the states thats probably made in china anyway lol