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Has any one done a commodore engine transplant into a vitara? if so what model v6 is the best bet?

If your going to put a V6 in a vitara the 2.5 GV engine would probably be your best bet.

A 186 with triple Su's or a 253 would be a pretty awesome conversion Be good at endos and bending front diffs from the weight but the motors can be had for about $50!

Why would you bother putting a boat anchor in such a light vehicle?

There are so many better options.

fire60 wrote:Has any one done a commodore engine transplant into a vitara? if so what model v6 is the best bet?

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE THESE AND NOT PUT WHAT CAR THEY HAVE?????? Is it a LWB,SWB, is it carby, efi, GV ????? What are you wanting to do with it? Why would you want to do this? Unless you have the motor there for free and you can do all the work yourself your going to have a lot of heart ache.
Regardless of what it is and what year it is the money you will piss into the wind doing that your better of selling yours and getting a new-ish V6 Grand Vitara.

Why give the bloke a hard time? He asked a simple question and it can be done. Plenty of folk over here have showhorned V6s into trials trucks. They aren't worried about road worthyness or budgets.

Trimixer wrote:Why give the bloke a hard time? He asked a simple question and it can be done. Plenty of folk over here have showhorned V6s into trials trucks. They aren't worried about road worthyness or budgets.

I am not giving him a hard time I am siply saying explain your question in a little more detail.
Like what car he has not just type. LWB SWB older one newer one year???
What he plans to do with it. Daily driver, trail rig, weekender toy?
Why he wants to do it sometimes helps to.
What his mechanical skills are..

People on here get shot down on here all the time simply because how they ask about things or how they go about getting information.

yes it can be done ,,if your interested to see how they go then get on youtube and check out the duffus with it in his way too high bazooki,,,personaly too much power and you will be breaking things,,,its excesive and too heavy,,v6 vit or sr20det or toyota 4age,,im doing the toyota motor soon,i went for a ride in a sierra with a 20v twincam silver top and god dammm do that its made to be in the zuks

nooki wrote:i went for a ride in a sierra with a 20v twincam silver top and god dammm do that its made to be in the zuks

Sadly, no it's not.

The 20V 4AGE motors are very appealing but they are not a straightforward fit at all. Distributor placement is the big problem, forcing the motor forward, along with no readily available 4 speed automatic that's compatible with the 4AGE and radiator clearance issues.

As for the commodore motor - I guess it be OK in a vitara - at least you could use the T700 auto and adapt it to a hilux transfer, but they are really not a great motor- personally, I'd be using a rover 3.9 V8, ZF auto and Rover transfer with 60 series diffs if you were planning big vitara. they're not that great a motor either, but they are torquey, smooth, cheap and light, and the transfer is very usable.

IMHO it doesn't matter which model of V6 you use- It's going to be a bit of a rough pig anyway so what shape the plastic covers are on the motor isn't a big deal. (unless you are talking 210Kw Alloytec )

I guess it depends what you want out of the car, and how many $$ you plan to drop on it.

Hell, whole Rangies are so cheap now you could use the RR diffs too, potentially for the same money as buying a hilux transfer and adapter to the Commodore T700 auto.

Just some ideas.

Thanks for the input. As it happens, I am doing a SAS as well but have decided to stick with the Zook motor. I think all the hassel with a swap is not worth it. I aleady have a 92 vit SWB 8 valve and it has just about enough power. The new truck is a long wheel base which is to have a short wheel base body cut down. It has the 16 valve donk, so with some tweeking will most likely have the power for the job.

Gwagensteve wrote:

nooki wrote:i went for a ride in a sierra with a 20v twincam silver top and god dammm do that its made to be in the zuks

Sadly, no it's not.

The 20V 4AGE motors are very appealing but they are not a straightforward fit at all. Distributor placement is the big problem, forcing the motor forward,

http://www.rhdjapan.com/sp-tec-20-valve ... ae86-51317

first link I could find and it's an average way of doing it and $$$, we made one ourselves for a mates blacktop in his ae86. no drama's after several track days and sprints. Lot's of work, yes... but definatly doable with a lathe and some carefull planning.

Gwagensteve wrote:

nooki wrote:i went for a ride in a sierra with a 20v twincam silver top and god dammm do that its made to be in the zuks

Sadly, no it's not.

The 20V 4AGE motors are very appealing but they are not a straightforward fit at all. Distributor placement is the big problem, forcing the motor forward, along with no readily available 4 speed automatic that's compatible with the 4AGE and radiator clearance issues.

As for the commodore motor - I guess it be OK in a vitara - at least you could use the T700 auto and adapt it to a hilux transfer, but they are really not a great motor- personally, I'd be using a rover 3.9 V8, ZF auto and Rover transfer with 60 series diffs if you were planning big vitara. they're not that great a motor either, but they are torquey, smooth, cheap and light, and the transfer is very usable.

IMHO it doesn't matter which model of V6 you use- It's going to be a bit of a rough pig anyway so what shape the plastic covers are on the motor isn't a big deal. (unless you are talking 210Kw Alloytec )

I guess it depends what you want out of the car, and how many $$ you plan to drop on it.

Hell, whole Rangies are so cheap now you could use the RR diffs too, potentially for the same money as buying a hilux transfer and adapter to the Commodore T700 auto.

Just some ideas.

sorry steve i have to disagree with you. the rover v8 would be harder to pul in because of space and it's not a very good engine. the v6 is the same weight as the v8 and has the same or more power than the 3.9 and is better on fuel. i have had a 3.9, 4.6 range rovers and i drive a vr as a daily right now, the buick engine is pretty much the rover engine but a little more refined (not by much) as for toque the v6 is pretty good, i was towing a trailer full of tools that weighed in a 2200 (car trailer tools and me) no problems and still getting 14.5 ltrs per 100 klms on town driving. our p38 was getting 16.4.

zook4fun wrote: sorry steve i have to disagree with you. the rover v8 would be harder to pul in because of space and it's not a very good engine. the v6 is the same weight as the v8 and has the same or more power than the 3.9 and is better on fuel. i have had a 3.9, 4.6 range rovers and i drive a vr as a daily right now, the buick engine is pretty much the rover engine but a little more refined (not by much) as for toque the v6 is pretty good, i was towing a trailer full of tools that weighed in a 2200 (car trailer tools and me) no problems and still getting 14.5 ltrs per 100 klms on town driving. our p38 was getting 16.4.

The VP\VR have a curb weight of about 1400Kg and 127 Kw
The P38 rover is somewhere around the 2500Kg mark and around a 140Kw motor.