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gq cv and axels.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:02 pm
by cspgq
im after some info on what options i have to replace my cv's with stronger ones in my gq. I know there are cals and the option of gu front end. Are there any other options? Thanks any info would be great.

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:41 pm
by dazgq1
i went gu front mate ,you get bigger,better brakes as well as stronger cv,s
and more stability from wider wheel track. ;)

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:19 pm
by cspgq
how about yuri cv's? who is running them what are they like?

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:22 am
by mud_runner_GQ
cspgq wrote:how about yuri cv's? who is running them what are they like?
It all depends on what you are running and how you drive?? What size tyres? what size engine? What type of driving? standard steering or hydro??
Iv been driving my GQ with standard Cv's and only done 1 CV, And i run 38's.

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:47 pm
by Screwy
I run Yuri treated Cvs in mine as i keep breaking Cvs on 37s when in comp. Never break standard ones on 35s though.
I havent broken them yet, but they havent done much work or a comp yet either.
Ill let you know how they go once ive comped them. if i dont break any in a comp they are good. If i do, then you need to go a full upgrade.

Screwy

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:20 pm
by Rolly
have run stock, yuris, garners and GU between my patrol and the spiderman car. have given both a very hard time on 40" stickies. Yuri's held up ok, getting a dozen good trips out of them, but both ended up breaking. Smashed a Garner within 5 mins, so dont really rate them. Have heard others who have had better luck. And as for GU, have run it in the front of the patrol for years, and have only ever snapped a stub axle once at TT. If you can get your hands on a cheap GU, in my opinion, it is the way to go. If not, spend the money and go Cals

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:17 am
by Screwy
I agree with Rolly but depends on Tyre size....

Rolly runs 40s, i wouldnt ever use Anything other the Cals or GUs with that size tyre......

Im slowly getting gear together to go GU diffs front and rear but its Dollar permitting and may take me 1 year to get the bits and money to do it, so the Yuri treated Cvs were a good option for me to give me enough strength to handle my 37s until i can afford GUs or Cals....

I could sneak Yuris under the missus watchful eye, couldnt sneak 2 K of cals or 3 k in full GU conversion under her nose.....

That said, wouldnt ever go Yuris if i was running anything more then 37s.... I only break stockers on 37s when in comp and under the pump. Never break them offroad under any conditions or on my 35s.... They are good enough to give me abit of extra strength to stave out breakages that happen too often in comp.

Screwy

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:16 am
by WICKED
I broke 7 Yuri's in about 2 year's, had a pair of Garners in there for 2 years, Destroyed the long side and the short side twisted the axle but the CV is fine and now a spare. Mind you when I broke the cv I also torn the H260 pinion out of the rear and was in 3rd gear full noise trying too drive/jumping up a rock face.

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:36 pm
by Screwy
WICKED wrote:I broke 7 Yuri's in about 2 year's, had a pair of Garners in there for 2 years, Destroyed the long side and the short side twisted the axle but the CV is fine and now a spare. Mind you when I broke the cv I also torn the H260 pinion out of the rear and was in 3rd gear full noise trying too drive/jumping up a rock face.
Yeh but how many stockers would you of broke in that same amount of time i wonder? thats the real comparison hey......

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:56 pm
by nairbo
Screwy wrote:
WICKED wrote:I broke 7 Yuri's in about 2 year's, had a pair of Garners in there for 2 years, Destroyed the long side and the short side twisted the axle but the CV is fine and now a spare. Mind you when I broke the cv I also torn the H260 pinion out of the rear and was in 3rd gear full noise trying too drive/jumping up a rock face.
Yeh but how many stockers would you of broke in that same amount of time i wonder? thats the real comparison hey......
WICKED is saying that Garner CVs last , 1 broken Garner CV to 7 broken Yuri CVs.
I have had Garner CVs in my Rangie for 4 years with TSLs full of water, have broken everything else except a CV
I rate Garners CVs very high.

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:59 pm
by bobtail
Rolly wrote:have run stock, yuris, garners and GU between my patrol and the spiderman car. have given both a very hard time on 40" stickies. Yuri's held up ok, getting a dozen good trips out of them, but both ended up breaking. Smashed a Garner within 5 mins, so dont really rate them. Have heard others who have had better luck. And as for GU, have run it in the front of the patrol for years, and have only ever snapped a stub axle once at TT. If you can get your hands on a cheap GU, in my opinion, it is the way to go. If not, spend the money and go Cals
For starters, don't use someone elses forum account, becuase it makes that person look like an idiot (I do have respect for your father). About the CV, if the CV is going to break in 5 minutes, its not a heat-treatment problem, or a driver problem, obviously a faulty CV. All it would have taken was for you to return the CV like you were asked to and I would have refunded your money or simply replaced the CV without any problems or hassles.

All it would have taken was one phone call to sort the problem out, instead of getting on the net and saying that you smashed it in 5 minutes. I've seen the opposition break in worse ways than mentioned, and it didn't last 5 minutes, it didn't even do 2 foot, but I never went on the net and bagged them out.

Tell the young bloke to buy Yuri CV's, thats fine with me, for starters Yuri won't be able to supply them. When he gets a price, he won't be able to afford to buy them and plus that, when he can afford to buy them and breaks them, I will still sell him a set :) (Make sure you keep my number).

I hope the next set doesn't break in 5 minutes. There is another 8 sets going out this week, theres nearly 600 CV's out there with my name on them. Lost count of the second hand ones I do for people.

Have a nice day.

Mick Garner

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:12 pm
by cspgq
Thanks heaps for all the replies guys.

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:23 pm
by flexytj
i have heard of cal offraod and yuri cv,s but have never heard of garner cv,s who sells them and how much are they ? are they a chromo cv ?

im looking to upgrade the cv,s in my gq diff .

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:34 pm
by WICKED
flexytj wrote:i have heard of cal offraod and yuri cv,s but have never heard of garner cv,s who sells them and how much are they ? are they a chromo cv ?

im looking to upgrade the cv,s in my gq diff .
Garner cvs are done by Mick Garner/bobtail.

Pm him for a price.

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:00 pm
by Havoc Racing
bobtail wrote:
Rolly wrote:have run stock, yuris, garners and GU between my patrol and the spiderman car. have given both a very hard time on 40" stickies. Yuri's held up ok, getting a dozen good trips out of them, but both ended up breaking. Smashed a Garner within 5 mins, so dont really rate them. Have heard others who have had better luck. And as for GU, have run it in the front of the patrol for years, and have only ever snapped a stub axle once at TT. If you can get your hands on a cheap GU, in my opinion, it is the way to go. If not, spend the money and go Cals
For starters, don't use someone elses forum account, becuase it makes that person look like an idiot (I do have respect for your father). About the CV, if the CV is going to break in 5 minutes, its not a heat-treatment problem, or a driver problem, obviously a faulty CV. All it would have taken was for you to return the CV like you were asked to and I would have refunded your money or simply replaced the CV without any problems or hassles.

All it would have taken was one phone call to sort the problem out, instead of getting on the net and saying that you smashed it in 5 minutes. I've seen the opposition break in worse ways than mentioned, and it didn't last 5 minutes, it didn't even do 2 foot, but I never went on the net and bagged them out.

Tell the young bloke to buy Yuri CV's, thats fine with me, for starters Yuri won't be able to supply them. When he gets a price, he won't be able to afford to buy them and plus that, when he can afford to buy them and breaks them, I will still sell him a set :) (Make sure you keep my number).

I hope the next set doesn't break in 5 minutes. There is another 8 sets going out this week, theres nearly 600 CV's out there with my name on them. Lost count of the second hand ones I do for people.

Have a nice day.

Mick Garner
Sorry Mick, didn't mean to upset you, or bag your product. Just giving feedback from our experiences with patrol gear. As i said, i broke 3 Yuris over the course of a dozen trips, half a dozen stocks, and one of yours. I wasn't concerned about warrenty, coz I was running big tyres, sticky compound, and pushing the car quite hard. As stated before, have heard of others having a good run out of your products.

Regards Mitch

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:10 pm
by 80lsy gq
everything can break if it is mistreated..Longfields, Cals, Yuris, Garniers and stock ones...what you need to decide is what is the most reliable out of what you can afford..

i have been selling and using Garner/HTE CVs for a few years now and have not had a single claim back on any..

I am sending out my first set of GU ones this week(hadnt really had the need for them yet as most are happy with the GU diff in standard form) so will be interested to see how they go...the guy who bought them has actually broken a few stock GU ones so it should be a good test

dave

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:13 am
by Screwy
80lsy gq wrote:everything can break if it is mistreated..Longfields, Cals, Yuris, Garniers and stock ones...what you need to decide is what is the most reliable out of what you can afford..

i have been selling and using Garner/HTE CVs for a few years now and have not had a single claim back on any..

I am sending out my first set of GU ones this week(hadnt really had the need for them yet as most are happy with the GU diff in standard form) so will be interested to see how they go...the guy who bought them has actually broken a few stock GU ones so it should be a good test

dave

I had a set done at haultech a few years back for my MQ and i never managed to break them including at tuff truck. Then sold the car. That was running 39.5x16 claws...... Are the ones Mick Garner is doing the same ones???
If so im shitty i didnt know Mick was still doing them cause i would of come to haultech / Mick for a set before asking Yuri. I only bought Yuris as i thought he was the only bloke doing treated re-inforced Cvs....

O well, see how Yuris hold up, if they break they break, if not then kewl i guess....

Screwy

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:21 am
by 80lsy gq
or you could have just called me Jeff....i am now the retailer for them..

we (Garner and myself) are also in the process of having an upgrade for GQ diffs which should prove to be one of the best upgrades yet...

dave

Re: gq cv and axels.

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:23 am
by Screwy
80lsy gq wrote:or you could have just called me Jeff....i am now the retailer for them..

we (Garner and myself) are also in the process of having an upgrade for GQ diffs which should prove to be one of the best upgrades yet...

dave
I just assumed haultech had dropped away from 4x4 since the buggy stuff stopped and thought you only did barwork etc. Doesn't matter now but if and when I break the yuris I'll be getting garners I think.