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sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:07 am
by known 2
my zooks been soa for a few months now andnoticing the front right spring is realy started to sag. they r 2i lifted king springs.
this a comon problem on soa zooks and can springs be reset or is it worth replacing both fronts.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:46 am
by GRPABT1
Yes but it is more common to SPOA zooks and SPOA springs need to be more resistant to sagging and spring wrap and often have more leaves added to the pack for longevity. This is contradictory to flex alot of the time and hence makes SPOA a less attractive venture.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:17 pm
by known 2
hmm well said.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:28 pm
by V.W.Dave
To add to the bad omen over SPOA when most people take leafs out to get more flex they more often then not take out the wrong leafs making the pack more prone to damage/sagging.
With a good anti wrap bar and or a shackle reversal spring problems will be a thing of the past.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:08 pm
by GRPABT1
then you'll just tear diff housing's and cross members etc when the anti wrap bar inevitably fails....
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:17 pm
by joeblow
with large tyres and standard diff gears wrap will be a pain. with lower diff gears wrap is greatly reduced.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:09 pm
by 86slowsierra
known 2 wrote:my zooks been soa for a few months now andnoticing the front right spring is realy started to sag. they r 2i lifted king springs.
this a comon problem on soa zooks and can springs be reset or is it worth replacing both fronts.
id swap the left to right and then later get them reset.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:46 pm
by droopypete
GRPABT1 wrote:then you'll just tear diff housing's and cross members etc when the anti wrap bar inevitably fails....
It depends on how the bar is designed/engineered.
Peter.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:52 pm
by sierrajim
droopypete wrote:GRPABT1 wrote:then you'll just tear diff housing's and cross members etc when the anti wrap bar inevitably fails....
It depends on how the bar is designed/engineered.
Peter.
.....and Mr Droopy knows his stuff here
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Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:58 pm
by GRPABT1
droopypete wrote:GRPABT1 wrote:then you'll just tear diff housing's and cross members etc when the anti wrap bar inevitably fails....
It depends on how the bar is designed/engineered.
Peter.
Gone through a few draft designs hey pete?
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Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:44 pm
by droopypete
Only one, the old single link from the top of the housing to the x member with the shackle trick, very temporary fix till it ripped the housing open
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it appeared to work but it just plain didn't.
I wanted 2 points of contact on the diff to complete the triangle, but every design I had seen interfered with the natural path of the springs so therefore introduced binding of the suspension.
Peter.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:06 am
by sierrajim
droopypete wrote:Only one, the old single link from the top of the housing to the x member with the shackle trick, very temporary fix till it ripped the housing open
![Crying or Very sad :cry:](./images/smilies/icon_cry.gif)
it appeared to work but it just plain didn't.
I wanted 2 points of contact on the diff to complete the triangle, but every design I had seen interfered with the natural path of the springs so therefore introduced binding of the suspension.
Peter.
So you're saying that you've seemingly solved the problem of droopy springs using the droopy method?
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:59 pm
by Guy
It was the hand polishing by nubile swedish virgins that made it work ...
apparently.
Re: sagged front spring on soa
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:46 pm
by NIK
Did we ever see the finshed results of droopys trac bar? I was keen to see how it ended up.
And to add to the original post, my front springs sagged pretty bad until I made correct length bump stops to stop the springs inverting too much.
The d/s is flat but the p/s has a slight arch still after a few years but that may be somthing to do with the p/s spring perch being lower than the d/s on toyota diffs?
Nik