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80 series camber adjustment with wheel alignment results

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:25 pm
by ledgend80
ok so the outer edge of my tires are wearing what are my options

eccentric bearing kit
adjustable kin pins (seen some on the snake racing)

any other options out there or what would you reccomend

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:11 am
by Z()LTAN
get a wheel alignment?

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:45 am
by BadMav
Z()LTAN wrote:get a wheel alignment?
X2

If that doesn't fix it, go to another mechanic, he's not doing it right.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:05 am
by oldmate
I'd start with an alignment and get a printout of the report so you know the kpi and camber. 80 series axles can bend with abuse so that could be an issue. The only way to correct it is to straighten the axle or use offset bearings. Keep in mind the only adjustment possible is the toe in/out. Everything else is set in the casting of the axle.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:33 am
by ledgend80
ok guys i know i have to have a wheel alingment done. just looking at what my options are if the camber is out.
has any one had anything to do with these.

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and does anyone no where i can find the specs for what the wheel alngnment should be.

and can anybody recommend someone in brisbane for a wheel alingment

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:49 am
by crankycruiser
IF your camber is out the in housing is bent. Get it straightened

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:57 pm
by oldmate
ledgend80 wrote:
and can anybody recommend someone in brisbane for a wheel alingment

No, but look for truck and coach aligment workshops. They are more knowledgeable and better set up to deal with solid axles.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:08 pm
by mutilated
Just go to any decent Tyre shop and make sure you get a print out and put it up here to see if it is a camber issue.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:32 pm
by TheBigBoy
How much roughly does it cost to get your housing straightened? Ive got constant passenger side oil hub leak. Part time kit fitted but it still leaks heaps. Ive changed the inner and outter about 3 times.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:55 pm
by 80's_delirious
crankycruiser wrote:IF your camber is out the in housing is bent. Get it straightened

x2

if your housing is bent, offset kingpin sets are a bandaid solution and are not fixing the cause.

check toe in/out

what tyre pressure are you running? I reckjon running lower pressure will tend to cause wear on outer edge of fronts. Especially as the 80s tend to understeer, and more so once lifted and on big rubber

wheel alignment specs

Camber 1* +/- 0.75*
Caster 3* +/- 1*
left and right sides should be within 0.5* of each other for both caster and camber

Toe In 4mm +/- 1mm

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:24 pm
by daniel1
as for the constant axel seal leak change the brass bush in the knuckle that keeps the axel from flogging around and chewing the seal out also you genuine toyota seals the rubber is better quality cheers daniel

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:21 am
by stilivn
Also a possibility is that the wheel bearings have come loose. Especially if you are only going on tire wear. Jack each tire off the ground an try and tilt it up an down. They do come loose at times, especially if the washes wasn't fitted properly.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:50 am
by drr
If it's a camber issue it will scrub on the inside of the tyre (negative camber) as it's highly unlikely that your axle will bend the other way causing the wear on the outer edge. More likely a toe or tyre pressure issue.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:05 pm
by ledgend80
wheel alignment results

previous values final values
l/h r/h l/h r/h


total toe +5.8mm +2.1mm

half toe +4.0mm +1.8mm +1.0mm +1.1mm

camber -00*04' +00*12' -00*04' +00*13

caster +01*19' +00*37' +01*19' +00*37'

king pin angle +29*08' +26*49' +29*08' +25*49'

included angle +29*05' +26*01' +29*04' +26*01'

set back -00*28' -00*25'

what's everyones opinions on these results.

Re: 80 series camber adjustment with wheel alignment result

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:01 pm
by oldmate
They are pretty much spot on. The castor for a pre mid-92 model is 1 degree 45 minutes. This changed to 3 degrees after mid-92 because of the new lowered springs.

Your tyre wear is from the 5mm of toe you had

Re: 80 series camber adjustment with wheel alignment result

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:15 pm
by ledgend80
are these still in spec even if the vechile has a 3 inch lift fitted or should they be a different value