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I am fitting a Tiger11 Z 9000lb winch in a standard ARB non winch bar and i have a few questions if any one can help it would be greatly appreciated.

can you rotate the end easy so the handle to engage/disengage etc is in a different position to how it comes? ie i want to put a hole in the bar and have the handle come up through it instead of have to reach in and under car to operate it.

Also it came with rope and a plate type fair lead where i have untill now always had cable and rollers. At what height do i fit the fair lead plate?? Hope that makes sence.

Thanks if you can help cheers Daz

gday daz

i think this will be the best answer to easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt-VpTs4 ... embedded#!

The hawse fairlead bolts up to the bottom bolts of the winch. The housing can be spun around to place the handle almost anywhere.

Thanks for the feed back guys its mounted up in bar now just need to wire it up.

Cheers Daz

need more pics now....

toy77 wrote:need more pics now....

Ill put the bar back on Monday night ill post some pics then

cheers Daz

How did you reinforce the bar?

toaddog wrote:How did you reinforce the bar?

The style of bar Daz has is exactly the same as the winch bar. It just doesn't have the cut outs so there is no need to reinforce the bar.

Winch is mounted in bar i have strengthened the bar a little because my brother had the same bar and did the same mod but with a 9000lb warn and over time the bottom of the bar bent out wards.

Have moved all i need to make room under bonnet to fit the control box after the control box is mounted winch will be ready to use.

sorry about pic quality they are late night shed pics

cheers Daz

One more question

A slow drawn out job i know aparantly i prommised to do some work around the house

I have finished mounting the controler on the inner guard close to battery. Although i have not used the winch under load it certainly seems to be fine in the shed the 2 speed bit is very cool, pitty you can not change it from hi to low in the cab.

The one thig im not sold on is the remote control the winch dose not seem to stop as quick as when use via wire control.

My question; I wish to wire a in cab controler i have run 3 wires from the control box to a rocker switch in the cab. There is 3 wires (3 pin controler) that go to the back of the hand controler plug. I think red, yellow and brown from memory. Do i just test which wire is powered all the time and run it to the central connection on the rocker switch? is it that easy?

Thanks for your help Darren

Red wire is battery power, yellow (terminal 'A' on solenoid)is in & brown/white (Terminal 'C') is out. Are you able to post a photo of the solenoid wiring? Mine was spinning opposite to what it should so I've swapped the stator field wires around. Just want to ensure it was these wires around the wrong way and not the small control wires. There are two different wiring diagrams on the Tigerz website which show opposite things.

DAZ wrote:One more question

Although i have not used the winch under load it certainly seems to be fine in the shed the 2 speed bit is very cool, pitty you can not change it from hi to low in the cab.

The one thig im not sold on is the remote control the winch dose not seem to stop as quick as when use via wire control.

Thanks for your help Darren

From their website the new 2011 winches have remotoe free spool. My remote setup also behaved the same and from what I spoke with Paul at Tigerz11 about, they are all like that unless spending big big $$$

NEW 2011 WINCHES COMING


12000LB Two Speed Winch and Big Base

9000LB Two Speed Winch and Big Base

10000LB Fast Winch and Big Base

10000LB Fast Winch with Auto Clutch

10000LB Fast Winch with Auto Clutch and Big Base

10000LB Twin Motor

10000LB Twin Motor and Big Base

10000LB Twin Motor with Auto Clutch

10000LB Twin Motor with Auto Clutch and Big Base


BELOW IS THE 10000LB TWIN MOTOR WITH AUTOMATIC CLUTCH WITH A BIG BASE TO HOLD 40M DYNEEMA ROPE

Hi Daz

You did view the video how to rotate that gearbox i hope ??

You have tested in both gears ??

Paul

DAZ wrote:Winch is mounted in bar i have strengthened the bar a little because my brother had the same bar and did the same mod but with a 9000lb warn and over time the bottom of the bar bent out wards.

Have moved all i need to make room under bonnet to fit the control box after the control box is mounted winch will be ready to use.

sorry about pic quality they are late night shed pics

cheers Daz

tigerz11 wrote:Hi Daz

You did view the video how to rotate that gearbox i hope ??

You have tested in both gears ??

Paul

DAZ wrote:Winch is mounted in bar i have strengthened the bar a little because my brother had the same bar and did the same mod but with a 9000lb warn and over time the bottom of the bar bent out wards.

Have moved all i need to make room under bonnet to fit the control box after the control box is mounted winch will be ready to use.

sorry about pic quality they are late night shed pics

cheers Daz

Yes the vid was the perfect helper. I did not have sound so im not sure what he was saying about the seal. I have checked it in both gears yes, why you ask?

cheers Daz

if you turn the middle pieces instead of the end plate what will happen is only 1 gear will work

DAZ wrote:

tigerz11 wrote:Hi Daz

You did view the video how to rotate that gearbox i hope ??

You have tested in both gears ??

Paul

DAZ wrote:Winch is mounted in bar i have strengthened the bar a little because my brother had the same bar and did the same mod but with a 9000lb warn and over time the bottom of the bar bent out wards.

Have moved all i need to make room under bonnet to fit the control box after the control box is mounted winch will be ready to use.

sorry about pic quality they are late night shed pics

cheers Daz

Yes the vid was the perfect helper. I did not have sound so im not sure what he was saying about the seal. I have checked it in both gears yes, why you ask?

cheers Daz

tigerz11 wrote:if you turn the middle pieces instead of the end plate what will happen is only 1 gear will work

DAZ wrote:

tigerz11 wrote:Hi Daz

You did view the video how to rotate that gearbox i hope ??

You have tested in both gears ??

Paul

DAZ wrote:Winch is mounted in bar i have strengthened the bar a little because my brother had the same bar and did the same mod but with a 9000lb warn and over time the bottom of the bar bent out wards.

Have moved all i need to make room under bonnet to fit the control box after the control box is mounted winch will be ready to use.

sorry about pic quality they are late night shed pics

cheers Daz

Yes the vid was the perfect helper. I did not have sound so im not sure what he was saying about the seal. I have checked it in both gears yes, why you ask?

cheers Daz

This feed back is awesome dude thanks im sure im not the only one benifiting from it. My computer dose not have sound what was the reason he was pulling the seal out turning it and showig it? Is it for a drain hole for water ?

Dose the winch suffer from holding water (the way i have it installed) if submursed etc?

Im very keen to see how it performs under load etc?

Can you winch with the gear in hi if the elec motor is not struggling? If ove loaded in hi is it lily to damage the elec motor or gear box first?

I love the look of the double motored winch above i am wondering if i should put one on Bob and start comping him? How much $$ are they?

Thanks Darren

DAZ wrote:

tigerz11 wrote:if you turn the middle pieces instead of the end plate what will happen is only 1 gear will work

DAZ wrote:

tigerz11 wrote:Hi Daz

You did view the video how to rotate that gearbox i hope ??

You have tested in both gears ??

Paul

DAZ wrote:Winch is mounted in bar i have strengthened the bar a little because my brother had the same bar and did the same mod but with a 9000lb warn and over time the bottom of the bar bent out wards.

Have moved all i need to make room under bonnet to fit the control box after the control box is mounted winch will be ready to use.

sorry about pic quality they are late night shed pics

cheers Daz

Yes the vid was the perfect helper. I did not have sound so im not sure what he was saying about the seal. I have checked it in both gears yes, why you ask?

cheers Daz

This feed back is awesome dude thanks im sure im not the only one benifiting from it. My computer dose not have sound what was the reason he was pulling the seal out turning it and showig it? Is it for a drain hole for water ?

Dose the winch suffer from holding water (the way i have it installed) if submursed etc?

Im very keen to see how it performs under load etc?

Can you winch with the gear in hi if the elec motor is not struggling? If ove loaded in hi is it lily to damage the elec motor or gear box first?

I love the look of the double motored winch above i am wondering if i should put one on Bob and start comping him? How much $$ are they?

Thanks Darren

he was showing the seal just so you could see what it looks like and how to put it back in right thats is all

drr wrote:Red wire is battery power, yellow (terminal 'A' on solenoid)is in & brown/white (Terminal 'C') is out. Are you able to post a photo of the solenoid wiring? Mine was spinning opposite to what it should so I've swapped the stator field wires around. Just want to ensure it was these wires around the wrong way and not the small control wires. There are two different wiring diagrams on the Tigerz website which show opposite things.

here ya go

MrGrim wrote:he was showing the seal just so you could see what it looks like and how to put it back in right thats is all

cool thanks for that. only job to do now is get the controler switch working inside the cab

cheers Daz

can i go through water with tigerz11 winch??
cheers mick

you are able to go thru rivers ect no problems

if you were using the winch in the water for a recovery i would when you had some spare have a check to see water did not enter.
We endeavour to do the best we can keep water out,there is a twin lip seal either end of the motor.
Silicone in join on the motor

WINCHING IN FAST GEAR

If your load is over 3000lb the winch will cut out ,,it has a overload protective device
Same in low gear 9000lb it will cut out

maintenance is the secret to all winches

Paul

Thanks Paul, you obviously dont like sleeping to much looking at your last post

cheers Daz

DAZ wrote:here ya go

Thanks DAZ. Is the heavy black cable going to the yellow terminal on winch motor?

drr wrote:

DAZ wrote:here ya go

Thanks DAZ. Is the heavy black cable going to the yellow terminal on winch motor?

No the black goes to the black point on winch

blue cable has replaced the yellow to the winch

bright red goes to battery

red with black tape goes to red on winch
hope that helps

cheers cheers Daz

When does that new twin motor winch come out?

c'mon Paul speak up about the new winches, your answering the other questions! When can we get some specs, dimensions and $$$

DAZ wrote:The one thig im not sold on is the remote control the winch dose not seem to stop as quick as when use via wire control.

Most winches remote controls operate the same way. A delay to start and a delay to finish.
Be particularly careful if your spooling the cable on in high speed with the remote control

Personally I only use the std controller or an in-cab switch.

hulsty wrote:c'mon Paul speak up about the new winches, your answering the other questions! When can we get some specs, dimensions and $$$

At this point in time i have decided to put them on hold

Twin Motor Winch
Im not happy with the wirring set up of the 2nd motor back to the control box.

Auto Clutch Winch
The control box also is not acceptable ,and our new control box is not compatiable with the Auto Clutch Winch

Paul