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1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:08 pm
by thrashlux
I have come across this engine its a 1KD-FTE
as far as i can work out its a development of the 1KD-FTV
the power outputs are amazing this is an extract from the old toymods post(cause if i just post a link not many will look)

Toyota Sport Version
Engine type: 1KD-FTV 3.0 inline 4 dohc vn T-25 turbo intercooler D4D commonrail
Engine capacity: 2982
Max Power: 144KW/196PS
Max torque: 412NM

VKC Motor Thailand Sport Version
Engine type: 1KD-FTE 3.0 inline 4 dohc vn T-25 twin turbo intercooler D4D commonrail
Engine capacity: 2982
Max Power: 195KW/266PS
Max torque: 645NM

here is the link to the post

http://www.toymods.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=11898" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

there is a lot of stupid talk either side from some people who obviously know nothing from a rice burner forum about diesel engines but if you ignore that then its interesting


what is interesting is the massive power that new variable vane turboed direct injected diesel engines can put out when modified
In America it is becoming all the rage to modify hi tec diesels via remapping soft ware Ie duramax or ford power stroke engines

what this leads me to is here there is no real way to get big power because we are saddled with nonadjustable factory management systems
the chev and ford ecu can be reprogrammed not so toyota

so does anybody know of programmable management systems that could be fitted to the latest generation engines (not a piggy back but complete stand alone) and really unleash some big power
if an aftermarket ecu were available it would get rid of all of the issues for example to fitt a 200 series donk to a manual and then into what ever
at this time i dont know of anyone fitting the twin turbo v8 into anything
the single turbo ute version is a no brainer as its already manual and does not have all the bells and whistles of the 200 series
Itcan be done due to the lack of integration and then possible limp home issues i would not really bother though because the 100 series 1HD-fte has the same power output with out peizo injectors

imagine the power you could get out of a 1vd-ftv if the same state of tune were applied as to the 1KD-fte it would be over 300 kw and probably 1000nm

more info any one??
we need to get this started in this country

Re: 1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:38 pm
by drr
Can't find any other info on this 195kW 1kd. I would like to see the turbo setup (sequential, compound etc.). I wonder why they would call it a FTE when it is common rail?

Re: 1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:32 pm
by thrashlux
so what does the "v" stand for is it common rail or variable vane turbo?
i know the "E" means electronic control

Re: 1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:43 pm
by drr
The 'v' suffix is for common rail injection, they don't differentiate the variable turbo's in the naming (not even any different for twins as you'd know)

Re: 1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:33 pm
by thrashlux
drr wrote:The 'v' suffix is for common rail injection, they don't differentiate the variable turbo's in the naming (not even any different for twins as you'd know)
Maybe the guy on the forum got it wrong because i cannot imagine them going back to an electronically controlled mech pump it does not make sense

Re: 1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:32 pm
by oldmate
The power gains are pretty good, and I think percentage wise you could get similar with the 1vd if not more. But it's not all that impressive in the grand scheme of things. Standard engines are tuned to be more reliable and cost effective to run in ordinary vehicles. It seems obvious that something labeled "sports" would be significantly better.

Toyota engine codes seem to be more indicative these days of the types of systems attached to it. Back with the 2h it didn't tell you much about the engine, other than it was the 2nd generation of the H design.

the Z seems to indicate indirect injection
the D seems to indicate direct injection
the F seems to indicate four valves per cylinder
and T seems to indicate turbo

This is pretty obvious to any Toyota diesel enthusiast, but how do these codes relate to all the other non commercial diesel and petrol cars they make?

Re: 1kd-ftv/1kdfte & high tech diesel questions

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:23 am
by drr
oldmate wrote:This is pretty obvious to any Toyota diesel enthusiast, but how do these codes relate to all the other non commercial diesel and petrol cars they make?
They're all the same. 'S' is for direct injection, 'E' for EFI, 'T' is turbo, 'Z' is supercharged, 'X' is Atkinson cycle.
The differnece in the naming of the diesels between the direct and precombustion engines is a little strange as they change the name of the engine family rather than the suffix. It's as if toyota class 1kd and 1hd engines altogether different from the 1kz and 1hz.