Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Finally it is done.
The setup is:
Front -> Tough Dog absorbers, and top ball joint spacers +cranced torsion bars
Rear -> Leafs raised and inforced, OME shock absorbers, teraflex revolver shackles.
This all gave a totall of +10cm in the front and +13cm in the rear.

5cm wheel spacers on each wheel, rear rims 16X6 -40offset, front rims 16X6 -20offset.
Tyres 205/80/16 kumho KL71 (summer tyres)
205/80/16 simex type (winter)

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I think it is quite good for now!
The only question I have is if there will be any problem with the angles of the front half axles because the angle seems to be big....
Does any one know if I need to lower the front diff??

Thanks.

Lower the front diff....... NO !

I've actually raised mine as its was the lowest part of the vehicle - which is pretty dumb.

I'm running front suspension that has much different geometry and measured the angle pretty carefully. I'd suggest you'll be ok.
Fortunately on wheel droop the axles is pretty unloaded so if you sensible you'll manage. I do carry spare CV's ( no axles as minre are chrome molly ) but actually never need them.

However revolver shackles are not clever as you'll find out on cross slopes when they unload.

MightyMouse wrote:Lower the front diff....... NO !

I've actually raised mine as its was the lowest part of the vehicle - which is pretty dumb.

I'm running front suspension that has much different geometry and measured the angle pretty carefully. I'd suggest you'll be ok.
Fortunately on wheel droop the axles is pretty unloaded so if you sensible you'll manage. I do carry spare CV's ( no axles as minre are chrome molly ) but actually never need them.

Thanks for the reply!
I do carry two spare axles since the day I finished the project....!
I've seen the angle and it's pretty scary but as you said it hasn't yet made me any trouble.....
I hope it will stay like this in the future.....

However revolver shackles are not clever as you'll find out on cross slopes when they unload.

What do you mean by this??

Drop shackles have a tendency to unload themselves on side slopes etc and can make the vehicle unstable and sometimes dangerous, they should never be driven on the road in an unpinned state. The drop shackles will give more droop but by the looks of it the rear of my car has almost the same flex and it is only 2 inch lifted with longer main springs.

The 4 inches of lift seems a little excessive with only 30inch tyres, 2 inch body lift with 2 inch suspension would yield much better results and CV angles. I doubt your CVs will stand up to much punishment at that angle but only time will tell....

Percy wrote:Drop shackles have a tendency to unload themselves on side slopes etc and can make the vehicle unstable and sometimes dangerous, they should never be driven on the road in an unpinned state.

It's driven almost like before on the road.
The rear is very stable....I'm not conserned in road driving at all.....

The drop shackles will give more droop but by the looks of it the rear of my car has almost the same flex and it is only 2 inch lifted with longer main springs.

Longer main springs is the best of all but I could'n find any suitable in a reasonable price here.....

The 4 inches of lift seems a little excessive with only 30inch tyres, 2 inch body lift with 2 inch suspension would yield much better results and CV angles. I doubt your CVs will stand up to much punishment at that angle but only time will tell....

The best thing of all is the ground clearance in the middle of the vehicle.
Before the car touched the groung often. Now almost never.
CV angles is my only problem but as you said.... "time will tell"....

Have a think about it.... when the shackle has opened ( i.e the axle is hanging ) how much of the vehicles weight is on the wheel - virtually nothing.
So - what traction are you going to get whith a wheel with no weight - none.

So whilst it lets the wheel hang, it provides no traction.

Also the unloading issue is scarry on cross slopes, the vehicle lurches as the shackle opens.

So all in all, not only don't they actually add any traction - they are bad for stability.

MightyMouse wrote:Have a think about it.... when the shackle has opened ( i.e the axle is hanging ) how much of the vehicles weight is on the wheel - virtually nothing.
So - what traction are you going to get whith a wheel with no weight - none.

So whilst it lets the wheel hang, it provides no traction.

Also the unloading issue is scarry on cross slopes, the vehicle lurches as the shackle opens.

So all in all, not only don't they actually add any traction - they are bad for stability.

Just run longer than usual shackles and move the shackle hangars forward to achieve original shackle angle (And retain near enough to original spring rate and gain lots of flex...)