Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Can someone do a SPOA for me for under $2500!?!?... Thats all ive got at the moment!!..... i cant do it myself.....ill pay in cash if anyone is interetsed?

Total 4wd want $3800 + ~$800 for shocks - Thats $4600!!...thats waaaay too steep i feel.

Thanks

BT1

chaos 4x4 is sydney did have a $2000 drive-in - drive-out arrangement 4 a while???

Bring it to Tassie leave it with me for 2 weeks and i'll do it for u for $2500.
drive away

Chaos wants about $3500 to $4000 engineered.
That doesnt include shocks.

Shocks will set u back another $600 ontop of the SOA anyway. But ur standard shocks WILL just fit in there still, u just wont get much travel, but they will do for on road driving until u get the dollars.

My SOA cost me alot of money in parts, but they were parts i was willing to part with, the conversion cost me under $50 in cash, not including shocks or engineers


screwy

DR Frankenstine i might take up ur offer dude. My freind is pretty keen aswell. Any discounts for 2 patrols at once??...

I just called up Hamish at Kaos siad he can do it for $2500 with shocks for me and my mate!

Siad he would look after us if there were 3 patrols! Anyone keen? He's needs at least a months notice...

BT1-PATROL wrote:'83 MK Turbo Diesel SWB ...

did you tell them you had a diesel ??? ( the crossmember will get in the way of the front shaft )

petrol units dont have this problem

Crap!...ill give him another call

excellent idea!!

a mate recently went to a shop to get a quote for his L28 MQ shorty. but they said they cant do it because the tailshaft vibrates. i told him they were probably just making up excuses because they didnt wanna do it.

so kingy, your saying the crossmember doesnt foul the front shaft in the petrols? you still have to do a little cut and fold tho, right?

MaccA

383FJ45 wrote:so kingy, your saying the crossmember doesnt foul the front shaft in the petrols? you still have to do a little cut and fold tho, right?

The crossmember in a petrol unit wont interfer with the front shaft on a SOA, no cuts/mods/nips/tucks are needed.

However on a diesel unit the gearbox sits 135mm further back to allow room for the longer diesel motor, this means that the transfer is all so further back and therfore the front shaft almost sits on the crossmember after a SOA, thast maybe fine under suspension compression but not so good under tension. The gap between the front shaft and the crossmember on a diesel after a SOA is about 5mm !!!, thast why the crossmember has to be moved further back. It all so needs to be moved further back if fitting a 5 spd box where a 4 spd once lived.


Kingy

ah k. thanks heaps for that.

he fitted a diesel 4 spd behind the petrol but im guessing the crossmember would still be in the original place.

i was always under the impression that MQ's had to have crossmember mods when SPOA, but its clearer now.


im thinking of doing it for him to save him a couple of grand. (coz thats what mates are for )

i did my cruiser fairly easily. cant see it being much more difficult than that.

the differances in the 2 gearboxes is nill bar for the top cover and the hi/low shifter..... we are talking 4 spds here....

In the pics below one is a diesel and the other a petrol.

the petrol box is on the left..... note where the gearshift comes out compared to the other box.

The box on the right is a 5 spd and you can see the 5th gear extension housing at the rear of the box.

The shifter hole in the floor on MQ's is in the exact same place on both petrols and diesels, its the top covers that differ.

Kingy

here's a better pic from above......
The petrol box is still on the left.

Kingy

V8Patrol wrote:here's a better pic from above......
The petrol box is still on the left.

Kingy

Cant you fit the 4 speed top cover to the 5 speed to get the shifter to sit further back?

MKPatrolGuy wrote:Cant you fit the 4 speed top cover to the 5 speed to get the shifter to sit further back?

yes ... needs a mod or 2 but it works fine

Remember I did this to mine to get it all ti line up and so I didnt have to cut the floor. Had I have fitted the diesel box as it was the shifter would have been under the heater somewhere, I kind figured that wasnt good.

Kingy

thanks for that kingy.

MK - id say the 5 speed would have an extra selector that the 4 speed doesnt have. like a leaver coming out the back of the selector rail (assuming its like a cruiser 5 speed) .

MaccA

Actually it pretty well straight foward, the 4spd top cover and shifter works a treat on top of the 5 spd box, main prob is that the reverse selector rubs and therefore needs a little machining to clear, other than that its simple.

I've had mine for a year now and no dramas but the box was tired before I fitted it, I've just scored another 5 spd and I am going to pull it down and pull a 4 spd down at the same time so they are side by side for a comparission and so I can figure out the differances if there are any.

Most of the bearing sizes are identicle according to the book ..... but I'll wait n see..

Kingy

V8Patrol wrote:

MKPatrolGuy wrote:Cant you fit the 4 speed top cover to the 5 speed to get the shifter to sit further back?

yes ... needs a mod or 2 but it works fine

Remember I did this to mine to get it all ti line up and so I didnt have to cut the floor. Had I have fitted the diesel box as it was the shifter would have been under the heater somewhere, I kind figured that wasnt good.

Kingy

Cool, I might chase up a 4 speed to cover and do this down the track, I had to take a notch out of the front of the shifter hole to clear the boss the shifter sits in.

im in the middle of doing this conversion at the moment, its pretty straight forward once u know how, though there are some hickups with the transfer case shifter that i havnt quite got solved yet......

screwy

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:im in the middle of doing this conversion at the moment, its pretty straight forward once u know how,

Dont you mean ..."once youve been told how"

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:though there are some hickups with the transfer case shifter that i havnt quite got solved yet......

I have and I guess you want the answers

no

no

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:though there are some hickups with the transfer case shifter that i havnt quite got solved yet......

email sent on how to do it

really hard to comprehend....
The pics will be handy!
Ill call ya