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w00t...
Im going to the bank tommorrow to get some $$ ready for an 80series, i want turbo diesel. If there is any good links i can use..thankyou and please...re: suspension lift Blift and fitting 35's... i want it to be a tourer that can climb and do some of the harder stuff.

Any advice on buying, what not to get, what to look for, and how much ..? looking at to set it up with 35's to start off with...doing most of the work.. ...myself ..well with some help.

Thanks in advance...

warning i'll be back.....

ferog wrote: Any advice

get a zuk

Only thing i know to look for in a Turbo 80 series is to make sure it has had the Big end Bearings replaced at some stage as from factory the early ones were having problems. And if its Manual a reco gearbox would be a bonus.

What ruff said. If you dont want to have to worry bout bigends, try and find (and i mean TRY) a post 1995 TD, the 24V ones, these are the go, and will be my step up from the DX i have now (in a few years time). The 1HD-FT is a brilliant motor, so is the 1HD, but only if it has been looked after.

Expect to pay $35000+ for a GOOD post '95 1HD-FT powered 80 series, and anywhere between $20000-$30000 for a pre 95, 1HD powered one.

Good to see you have seen the light

80 series - s'pose its better than the zook you were looking at
I'd go the 60 though, they're cheap and ya can't kill the 2H

to go further with the big-end bearings problems - no matter what year you get, replace the big end bearings with aftermarket items. the toyota bearings are a crappy alloy for allegedly environmental reasons and they aren't much chop - and failures are catastrophically expensive.

look for cracks in the chassis around the front panhard rod mount and crossbrace, and front and rear upper spring perches, especially oh higher km models.

also even though they are a direct injected turbo diesel they are not super economical on fuel and if you are used to small cars you will be stung by fuel bills. they can be driven pretty lean but usually if you've got the power you use it, and big turbo diesels are thirsty when driven hard. BUT don't be tempted to get a petrol model even though they are a million bucks cheaper, but the fuel consumption is shocking.

good luck finding a turbo at all with less than 200,000km and under $25,000. the multivalves are even more rare and more expensive. the manual gearboxes need overhauling around 150,000km on the turbo models. Check the service history thoroughly, the oil change interval is not as critical on direct injected engines but make sure things like timing belt, valve clearances, injectors, filters etc are changed/serviced at the recommended intervals.


a 4" lift will clear 35's ok but consider a 2" lift and 33's for touring.

hehe you just wish you were cool enough for a 40!!!!
and i know if you didnt have to have a daily driver ya would get yaself a 40 hehe.
dont forget you owe me a drive of ya new beast!!

goodluck on the quest for the GEROF em.

So your are taking the plunge hey......... woohoo. Basically it`s what all the others said go for the latest model diesel 80 that you can get. I have looked at a few lately and they are $$$. Look at a price range of at least above $25,000, but i suppose you already know that .


Go for it em!! I take it you got rid of your roza then? What are you going to do about your username now???

personally i think the landcruisers are too expensive. ya can buy a patrol deisel for $9000 put an aftermarket turbo and some lockers and 35 and still have some money left over. From what your talkin your gonna spend at least $30 grand. thats some serious debt for a person your age. but if ya harts set on it go for it

personally i think the landcruisers are too expensive. ya can buy a patrol deisel for $9000 put an aftermarket turbo and some lockers and 35 and still have some money left over. From what your talkin your gonna spend at least $30 grand. thats some serious debt for a person your age. but if ya harts set on it go for it

redzook wrote:

ferog wrote: Any advice

get a zuk

Now thats good advice Em

R U looking for a factory turbo or is an after market one OK, if so I have a friend with one for sale (after market turbo, 35" and lifted etc) in excellent cond I have photos if your interested PM me.

PS I have a factory one and LOVE it!!

im not spending too much, they seem to be alot cheaper round my way, I have found a few to check out,

Toyota Landcruiser DX 1997 Manual, 245000kms, 80 series diesel, Old Man Emu 4in lift kit, dual batteries, Safari snorkel, stainless bull-bar, Hayman Reese towbar, dual tanks, full service history, very good condition, $19500

Toyota Landcruiser GXL 1992, manual, 170000kms, 4.2L turbo diesel, power windows and mirrors, central locking, air conditioned, CD, AM/UHF radios, dual batteries, snorkel, steel bull-bar with Warn winch, IPF spotlights, diff lock, mags, 285 x 75 R16 mud terrain tyres, spare wheel carrier, towbar, steel side steps and rear bash guards, $20000 negotiable

Toyota Landcruiser GXL 80 Series 4.2 diesel, 5 speed, snorkel, lift kit, 35in mud terrains, CD, excellent condition, $21500.

I found more that arn't modified, too many to chose from, Im not spending over 20k atm, as long as its better than the feroza...

I have my eye on the patrols as well, but im not allowed to copy hoonz so i dont know yet..

Thanks for the tips everyone..!

As for the user name it stays the same....As for the 80's name... Im

naming my monster... (in memory of ferog) 'Goref' the 80..

ferog wrote:
Toyota Landcruiser GXL 1992, manual, 170000kms, 4.2L turbo diesel, power windows and mirrors, central locking, air conditioned, CD, AM/UHF radios, dual batteries, snorkel, steel bull-bar with Warn winch, IPF spotlights, diff lock, mags, 285 x 75 R16 mud terrain tyres, spare wheel carrier, towbar, steel side steps and rear bash guards, $20000 negotiable

Thats cheap and chances are with all those mods it has allready had the bearings done. But its also prob a bitt rough around the body. And unless its got an aftermarket diff lock then it prob has 2 factory electric lockers.

ferog wrote:Toyota Landcruiser DX 1997 Manual, 245000kms, 80 series diesel, Old Man Emu 4in lift kit, dual batteries, Safari snorkel, stainless bull-bar, Hayman Reese towbar, dual tanks, full service history, very good condition, $19500

this sounds like a good one emm...with log book and full service history...DX...hmmm.... is this the base model os they com with vynl interior too, which is real easy to keep clean ....teh eheheheh with any luck it might even be toyota "POO" brown....

yup dx is the pov pack 97 tho 1hz

RUFF wrote:

ferog wrote:
Toyota Landcruiser GXL 1992, manual, 170000kms, 4.2L turbo diesel, power windows and mirrors, central locking, air conditioned, CD, AM/UHF radios, dual batteries, snorkel, steel bull-bar with Warn winch, IPF spotlights, diff lock, mags, 285 x 75 R16 mud terrain tyres, spare wheel carrier, towbar, steel side steps and rear bash guards, $20000 negotiable

Thats cheap and chances are with all those mods it has allready had the bearings done. But its also prob a bitt rough around the body. And unless its got an aftermarket diff lock then it prob has 2 factory electric lockers.

something doesn't ring true with that ad. it's either very rough cosmetically or mechanically, might not be a factory turbo. it's too cheap. being a '92 I'd be having a real good hard look for those chassis cracks. if it's all good, it's a bargain.

another question..

Whats the deal with the 'full time 4wd' 80's, does'nt that include all GXL models including the factory turbo'd ones..? Ive been told not too get full time 4wd, so if its true that means i should be getting standard diesel nothing else..? or not.




(does anyone have any good links I can look at? )

Em
It is true GXL`s are fulltime 4wd, the reason people say not to get one is that fulltime puts alot more strain on the drivetrain (c'vs etc) and you use a shite more fuel aswell. You can buy a kit though that is relatively cheap to convert it to partime.

Sorry i don`t have a link.

W00t for GOREF!!!!

test drive any potential GOREF's???

you can test drive mine if you want to get a feel for the big 80 - 5" lift, 315's, turbo, twin locked. but Grandpa 80 isn't for sale

em- buy a nissan..like a 99 or 2000 model GU nissans are cheaper too

XFACTOR wrote:em- buy a nissan..like a 99 or 2000 model GU nissans are cheaper too

did you ever stop to think for a moment *why* Nissans are cheaper?

They are cheaper cos... i dunno... they seem like a good truck??

Cos they dont have the Aussie Icon and reliable image of a Cruiser!

Stay the Cruiser Em..... may the force be with you!

but you know you want a 40! i saw the grin when you drove the 40, and mine is a crapper. get yourself a beasty 40!

dumbdunce wrote:

XFACTOR wrote:em- buy a nissan..like a 99 or 2000 model GU nissans are cheaper too

did you ever stop to think for a moment *why* Nissans are cheaper?

yup..because they dont have the same badge!!

XFACTOR wrote:

dumbdunce wrote:
did you ever stop to think for a moment *why* Nissans are cheaper?

yup..because they dont have the same badge!!

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:They are cheaper cos... i dunno... they seem like a good truck??

you mean apart from having the most inefficient petrol engines of any 4WDs? or the most ancient technology 6 cylinder turbo diesels that make pathetic power and blow smoke and use stacks of fuel? or the trashy "high-tech" 4 cylinder turbo diesel that drops its bundle after 50,000km because it has to work too hard lugging an overweight truck around? and the non existant ergonomics? or the tops gearboxes that strip out 5th gear if they get used for towing? and the horrendous front end that always gets the wobbles if you lift it more than an inch? yeah I suppose apart from all that Patrols are pretty good trucks

dumbdunce you could be onto something there tiger.

now while you are preaching the yota verses, get out to your shed and find me a damn LSD centre or locker for my 40. pleaze.

I have a DX 'Pov' pack - Here's the deal.

Those prices you have are great!!! Couple of things to look for to make sure you don't have a dud. When it's cold - see if it's a hard downshift into 2nd or crunches up to third - if so - then the synchro's aren't happy - but it's something you can over come...

Check the lower panhard mounts - they do get cranky witha bit of lift - and check the front diff housing - standard ones are as weak as pi55 and bend after a jump or two...

Ultimately teh part time 4wd models are just fantastic - they are as strong as (my car can attest to that - it has proven worth - 90,000 km in tow year 40,000 in the bush! ) and the fuel savings are well worth it - don't be scared to buy a non turbo model either - chuck a 2.5" exhaust and get it tuned = $400 performance upgrade - mine fly's along and has heaps of grunt pushing 35's.

Only real PITA is the rear indicators - they get nailed a bit - and the standard rear bumper can be torn off a bit. Bugger. Good luck.

PS - why be a number with a Pootrol - they are like a55holes everyone has one!!! Be unique an bend your 80 yourself!!

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:dumbdunce you could be onto something there tiger.

now while you are preaching the yota verses, get out to your shed and find me a damn LSD centre or locker for my 40. pleaze.

I forgot to mention things like semi-floating rear axle only on the nissan, self-grenading locking hubs, ridiculous indicators/tail lights in the plastic rear bumper, rear door mounted spare that rattles the door open on corrugations, pathetically weak lower rear trailing arms that crumple as soon as they see a rock let alone hit one, lousy floating caliper brakes that fade badly and once you add 35" tyres onlt even lock them up, I'm sure I could go on...

as for Limo centres, I have one that I pulled from my 80 series which should go into the newer 40 series diffs, in preetty good condition, only 80,000km - if you like I'll open it up and do things to the preload, how does $200 sound?