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Transfer Case Of Choice
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:15 pm
by bubs
Ok fellas, out of all the transfer cases commonly available in Australia what would be your preference?
I am talking about what do you believe to be the strongest, how good is the aftermarket following, can it disconnect the rear drive
, one that you can easily find parts for and price second hand.
Buddy
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:47 pm
by daddylonglegs
The only ones I am aware of that you can disconnect the rear drive, are quite strong and have reasonable availability in Australia are New process 205 from Ford F trucks etc, Spicer model 20 from variou Jeep vehicles, and the spicer 300 fom International Scouts.
I personally wouldn't use any of these if I were building up a special vehicle, because the height of the rear output makes for acute driveshaft angles when compared to to offset tranfercases in LandCruisers and LandRovers. but I suppose this is only a concern on shorter wheelbase rigs.
Bill.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:50 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Atlas 2.
Re: Transfer Case Of Choice
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:52 pm
by antt
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Atlas 2.
bubs wrote:Ok fellas, out of all the transfer cases
commonly available in Australia what would be your preference?
I am talking about what do you believe to be the strongest, how good is the aftermarket following, can it disconnect the rear drive
, one that you can easily find parts for and price second hand.
Buddy
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:53 pm
by RUFF
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Atlas 2.
Commonly available in Aus?
I am yet to see one of these in any local wreckers i have been too.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:00 pm
by spazbot
yeah ive seen a few, also there were some HP D60s coilovers to boot
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:02 pm
by NICK
GQ or hilux. basically cause they are everywhere and cheap.
NICK
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:02 pm
by AussieCJ7
Dana 300 found in 80's Jeep CJ's and international scouts
add a JB conversions upgrade kit you get 4:1 and the strength that will give an atlas a good run for its money at about half the price
twin stick options are cheap and you can even fab these yourself to give 4hi 4lo 2 hi 2 lo combinations
after that most of the new process boxes are pretty good but weigh a ton and dont have as many after market upgrade options
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:04 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Drop into my work and you will see 2 rigs with them fitted and another 2 on the shelf and another 4 due in a week. So yep they are available in OZ.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:06 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Sorry, as for the HP 60's, yep got them also 2.5 tonne rockwells and Mogs too.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:15 pm
by spazbot
we all know your a parts whore chezzy
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:18 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Yep, parts I luv em. I have everything, you just gotta find them.
In 8 weeks I am shifting and everything has gotta go.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:19 pm
by landy_man
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Drop into my work and you will see 2 rigs with them fitted and another 2 on the shelf and another 4 due in a week. So yep they are available in OZ..............................................Sorry, as for the HP 60's, yep got them also 2.5 tonne rockwells and Mogs too
I am thinking we need a vendors section on the forum....pleez
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:22 pm
by bubs
AussieCJ7 wrote:Dana 300 found in 80's Jeep CJ's and international scouts
add a JB conversions upgrade kit you get 4:1 and the strength that will give an atlas a good run for its money at about half the price
twin stick options are cheap and you can even fab these yourself to give 4hi 4lo 2 hi 2 lo combinations
after that most of the new process boxes are pretty good but weigh a ton and dont have as many after market upgrade options
Where am I going to find and how much am I going to pay for a D300
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:27 pm
by RUFF
AussieCJ7 wrote:Dana 300 found in 80's Jeep CJ's and international scouts
add a JB conversions upgrade kit you get 4:1 and the strength that will give an atlas a good run for its money at about half the price
twin stick options are cheap and you can even fab these yourself to give 4hi 4lo 2 hi 2 lo combinations
after that most of the new process boxes are pretty good but weigh a ton and dont have as many after market upgrade options
So a Scout 2 with a 727TF will it have a D300 behind it?
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:27 pm
by daddylonglegs
I think many of you have missed the point of the original question.
I may be wrong but I dont think you can disconnect the rear drive on Hilux or Nissan t/cases.and Atlas 2's are not readily available at a reasonable price 2nd hand. Bubs lives in Qld, so dropping into your shop in Bayswater Melb for a squizz Cheezy may not be all that convenient either.
Bill.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:30 pm
by POS
LT230
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:35 pm
by bubs
I am not in the market to change, i really want to get some general info on t-cases
i currently will be using hilux t-case in my project, but I KNOW if I ever get it going I will be having nothing but breakages
So i want know what is strong - doesn't need disconnect but it would be nice
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:42 pm
by landy_man
POS wrote:LT230
shhhhhhhh
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:01 pm
by daddylonglegs
In that case I agree with those who say LandRover LT230.
Quite strong, 3.320:1 low range standard, easy adaptability, offset rear output. fulltime 4wd but easily converted to selective 4wd. PTO option.as common as arseholes and quite cheap these days.etc etc
Bill.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:02 pm
by AussieCJ7
bubs wrote:AussieCJ7 wrote:Dana 300 found in 80's Jeep CJ's and international scouts
add a JB conversions upgrade kit you get 4:1 and the strength that will give an atlas a good run for its money at about half the price
twin stick options are cheap and you can even fab these yourself to give 4hi 4lo 2 hi 2 lo combinations
after that most of the new process boxes are pretty good but weigh a ton and dont have as many after market upgrade options
Where am I going to find and how much am I going to pay for a D300
since your in qld check out Hammonds Jeep and Jeeepart recyclers price NFI but real 4x4's already have them
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:04 pm
by AussieCJ7
RUFF wrote:AussieCJ7 wrote:Dana 300 found in 80's Jeep CJ's and international scouts
add a JB conversions upgrade kit you get 4:1 and the strength that will give an atlas a good run for its money at about half the price
twin stick options are cheap and you can even fab these yourself to give 4hi 4lo 2 hi 2 lo combinations
after that most of the new process boxes are pretty good but weigh a ton and dont have as many after market upgrade options
So a Scout 2 with a 727TF will it have a D300 behind it?
possibly not an expert on what model scouts had what just know that some of them had the dana 300
A mid 80's CJ7 had a TF904 and dana 300 so I can not see why the scout didnt have the TF727 and dana 300
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:47 am
by redzook
zuk case
heeps of gears avaliable down to 8.1
rear d'c
strenght would be the only issue (case normally cracks) but that is where the SAMBOX II comes in
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:59 am
by bru21
gq seems so obvious. variety of nissan, lt1 corvette, ls1, holden 3.9 and 5l motors bolt up cheaply, duel transfer for 2wd high, low 4wd high low/low. marks gearsets available. strongest cheapest box. i paid $200 for my second case. you can remove the rear shaft. its all metric.
why be expensive and different for no honest reason other than wow factor of yank names!
.....................then there's the weight aspect.......who said that
.....................
cheers
bru
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:10 am
by Wooders
The NP205 is a strong box and can be found readily in old Fullsize jeeps...sure not as common as hiluxes - but not rare either....
This box has a pretty ordinary 2:1 lowrange but its strong and there are aftermarket 3:1 ratios availble.
The Dana300 ACJ7 keep talking is readily available too - standard it's a good boxx - but it's weakness are the shafts - however there are kits available to rebuild the entire guts to bring it to vertually Atlas II strength, but about $2k less
Also these are a nice short box which is good in a SBW rig.....
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:12 am
by landy_man
bru21 wrote:you can remove the rear shaft. its all metric.
rear disconnect is not the ability to remove the rear driveshaft...
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:46 am
by daddylonglegs
Most of the transfercases suggested need aftermarket help and lots of $$$$$ to be truly useful. If memory is correct the dana spicer 300 as used in v8 Scouts only had a 2.2:1 low range. The Jeep ones were a bit lower. LandRover Lt230, They also have full floating input and output shafts and the best hand brake in the business.and cope very well behind 6.5 litre GM deisels and New Venture 4500 gearboxes.
Bill.
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:22 am
by chimpboy
I'll confess to ignorance here - what's good about being able to disconnect the rear axle? I mean, I can think of rare occasions when it would be useful but I don't see it being needed often enough to justify a big spend.
I realise I probably haven't thought of something. What makes it worth it when a case without that ability is going to be enormously cheaper?
Jason
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:15 am
by Wendle
chimpboy wrote:I'll confess to ignorance here - what's good about being able to disconnect the rear axle? I mean, I can think of rare occasions when it would be useful but I don't see it being needed often enough to justify a big spend.
I realise I probably haven't thought of something. What makes it worth it when a case without that ability is going to be enormously cheaper?
Jason
disconnect rear drive, pull handbrake on, turn around in no space with front wheel drive.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:27 pm
by Wooders
Longlegs,
I wouldn't call an NV4500 a cheap or common tranny either
The Dana300 - scout or other was 2.62:1 stock - but 4:1 kits are available.
The previous Dana 20 had only 2.02:1.
BTW if you are thinking it's too Xy - what $$$ are we talking here???
What ratio is desired? ie if it's mostly strength, and not the ratio the D300 can be beefed up with 32spline Front & rear shafts for about $1k.....this is now plenty strong....It's if you want lower (& stronger) ratios that you'd need to add anothe $1kish....