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33ins problem when turning
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:13 am
by KCboy
sirs, i have a 95 pajero and u guys say that fiitting 33ins will be no problem but how come i seem to experience some problems in turning left or right during full turns. is there anything i can do?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:40 am
by Alex Kogan
Wrong wheel offset may caouse tires to rub. What kind of wheels you got. I'd say preferrably you need 0...-15mm offset
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:55 am
by KCboy
i have 15x7 stock rims. what offset? how can i remedy this?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:14 am
by Alex Kogan
What kind of problem do you experience. Rubs on the bumper? If that often stock bumper sags quite a bit. You can adjust it so it won't. Those stock wheels have +10mm offset. I've heard of many people with 33" on those without a problem. I personally run mine on 16x8 with +2 offset.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:19 am
by KCboy
sir, when ever i make a full turn left or roght, i fell something is rubbing especially when the pajero is moving while turning. what do u think should be trimmed? i don't have mud flaps aswell as no stepboards. bumpers are still stock. someone told to trim something that hits the tire but how come the people who post here say they don't have that problem. my pajero is the 2.5tdi model.
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:25 am
by Grantw
My 35's, though 13.5" wide, hit the front swaybar at full compression and lock. Mind you its only the side lugs. It will be clearly visible as it will have rub marks
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:43 am
by -Scott-
Exactly what size 33s? If you're running 33x12.5x15 they are wider than 285/75-16 - closer to a 33x11.2-16. According to most specs the 33x12.5 need 8" wide rims as a minimum, so narrower rims may be affecting the shape of the side walls - but I'm not sure it would affect clearance on lock.
Many cars in Australia are GLS spec or higher, with flared wheel guards for wider tyres ex-factory. Cars without the factory flares could easily have clearance issues with 33" tyres.
Many of us have 2" body lifts, which I was once told is essential to run 33s on the earlier Gen2s - I didn't try 33s until I had the body lift. Later Gen 2s had a 30mm body lift ex-factory, and can run 33s without additional body lift - I don't know if they require suspension lift for clearance.
My rims are 16x8 with zero offset, but it looks like I could use the standard +10 offset without problems - the tyres have good clearance at full lock.
Have you tried crawling around under the car to look for the bright spots where its rubbing? If it's catching the edge of the guards look for bends in the sheet metal. Once you know where it's rubbing it should be easier to work out a solution.
Good luck,
Scott
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:25 am
by KCboy
i was going forr the stock look thats why i didn't change rims. a lot of ppl said that 15x8 should be the rims for my tire but some say its ok. any other suggestions or advice is highly appreciated, thanks. wish someone could answer my question....am just a newbie at this lift.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:28 am
by KCboy
my tires are 33x12.5x15 yokohama geolander at. rims are stock 15x7.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:58 pm
by Thor
KCboy wrote: wish someone could answer my question....am just a newbie at this lift.
as said, you can answer your own question by looking under the car to see where rubbing is. that is the fastest and first check before you worry about offsets and bumpstops.
it is also not recommended running 12.5" on 7".. might be an idea to invest in 8" rims even if this is not the problem.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:46 pm
by KCboy
thor,
is it dangerous to run the 33s on 15x7 rims? i read somewhere that it was dangerous but others say its ok?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:09 pm
by Bitsamissin
Thats your problem then running them on the standard 15x7" rims they will bag out more and rub on the front swaybar (right hand side) and the idler arm/swaybar (left hand side).
I ran 33x12.5x15 BFG muds on 15x8 ROH Trac 2's without any rubbing that was with a 2.5" t/bar crank.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:09 pm
by Thor
greater chance of popping the bead at low pressures. as said; not recommended.
search the site for other opinions, was also briefly mentioned in scotts (NJ SWB) tyre choice thread.
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:05 am
by KCboy
bitsamissin,
i think u got it right already. the parts u mentioned were the parts that were being hit by the tires when turning. guess i have to buy new rims. there goes mt stock looking rims.
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:50 am
by MKPatrolGuy
Thor wrote:greater chance of popping the bead at low pressures. as said; not recommended.
search the site for other opinions, was also briefly mentioned in scotts (NJ SWB) tyre choice thread.
I think you will fing it harder to pop the bead at low pressures on the narrower rims.
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:44 am
by KCboy
so which is it? harder or easier on narrower rims?