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Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:52 pm
by rockcrawler31
Hi guys
I have a Chevrolet C30 chassis i'm using for a hot rod project. I'd like to box the frame in places and run the odd crossmember as well as weld link/airbag mounts.
The chassis is an open C section design, and MAY be high carbon steel. Can anyone tell me how to test the grade of the steel used in the chassis? What if i cut a tiny bit off the chassis at the back - could i send that somewhere to have it tested?
If it IS high carbon steel, what proceedures can be done to be able to successfully weld to it and not suffer failures and cracks? Pre and post heating? Tig with a specific filler rod?
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:00 pm
by ledgend80
i would say you would need to talk to someone who does ndt testing. they should be able to come out to you and do some material testing
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:46 pm
by DamTriton
IIRC Gwagensteve here is into NDT, he may be able to give you some pointers on who, where and how.
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:56 pm
by rockcrawler31
Cool. thanks KIA.
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:29 am
by date
A simple, but crude test to see if it is a high carbon steel is to put a grinder to it. If it sparks wildly, it is high carbon. If it sparks normally, it is not. You can egt some idea by test grinding a piece of mild steel and comparing it to a known piece of high carbon (eg tool) steel. This is not totally conclusive, but will give you a good idea.
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:33 am
by V.W.Dave
Hey Milo,
You should know by now who to talk to about metal in your area. You have been wheelen enough times with BlackBull to know his metal skills.
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:34 am
by bazzle
Spectrometer services.
http://www.spectrometer.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Send them a bit in an envelope . Prob cost about $80
Bazzle
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:15 pm
by rockcrawler31
V.W.Dave wrote:Hey Milo,
You should know by now who to talk to about metal in your area. You have been wheelen enough times with BlackBull to know his metal skills.
I know, but neither of us are metallurgists. That i know of at least. It's kinda the thing you want either a bit of paper, personal experience with that particular chassis, or manufacturers nomenclature to be sure so that i don't go killing some poor schmuck.
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:16 pm
by rockcrawler31
bazzle wrote:Spectrometer services.
http://www.spectrometer.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Send them a bit in an envelope . Prob cost about $80
Bazzle
Thanks for the link baz
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:14 pm
by KiwiBacon
A rough test is to heat and quench a piece, see how hard it gets.
If you just want to check weldability that'll be a good start. If you need to convince someone of the actual carbon content, then a mass-spectrograph is the way.
Re: Testing steel properties of a chassis
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:22 pm
by Gwagensteve
bazzle wrote:Spectrometer services.
http://www.spectrometer.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Send them a bit in an envelope . Prob cost about $80
Bazzle
Bingo. That's who we use for carbon content.