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hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:53 am
by lockedlux
hey guys,
i got a hilux housing which im going to run some surf hubs on to make the wheel track wider. do i have to change the disc to something else? as the caliper doesnt line up with the factory mounting point.
any help would be muchly appreciated
cheers Tam
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:21 am
by MogLux
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:20 am
by Mr DJ
Yep, did same to mine.
Need a rotor spacer & bolts if you have good rotors already.
Can get a kit from Marks Adaptors or may be able to get just the spacer from Bubs Customs.
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Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:24 pm
by monster fj
budscustoms does a wide track kit for 350
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:38 pm
by Mr DJ
Not bad, that's cheaper than the Mark's kit I bought 2-3 years ago !
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:34 pm
by metak
does anyone know what thickness the disk spacers are as i would like to make some up?
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:59 pm
by 80gus
34mm spacers are needed
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:31 pm
by MogLux
monster fj wrote:budscustoms does a wide track kit for 350
$350 that's expensive when you can land them into the country from overseas for under $250 ....
I understand supporting local guys but with the Aussie dollar the way it is they need to become more price competitive ...
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:37 pm
by 80gus
macarthur 4x4 wrote:monster fj wrote:budscustoms does a wide track kit for 350
$350 that's expensive when you can land them into the country from overseas for under $250 ....
I understand supporting local guys but with the Aussie dollar the way it is they need to become more price competitive ...
I'd like to know how you get them for 250 landed, are the sky brand ones? i tried that worked out same as local price so went with buds
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:39 pm
by monster fj
macarthur 4x4 wrote:monster fj wrote:budscustoms does a wide track kit for 350
$350 that's expensive when you can land them into the country from overseas for under $250 ....
I understand supporting local guys but with the Aussie dollar the way it is they need to become more price competitive ...
X2 ON WHERE U CAN GET THEM UNDER 350
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:41 pm
by monster fj
A BIT OF THE TOPIC BUT I PRICED A TRAIL GEAR FRONT IFS ELIMANATOR KIT FROM THE USA AND THEY WANTED 1950 JUST FOR SHIPPING
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:01 pm
by Jcas24
monster fj wrote:A BIT OF THE TOPIC BUT I PRICED A TRAIL GEAR FRONT IFS ELIMANATOR KIT FROM THE USA AND THEY WANTED 1950 JUST FOR SHIPPING
who was the shipping though, UPS is dearer then USPS last time I was looking into and some places use DHL, and there would be alot more weight in a whole sas kit
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:52 pm
by shorty_f0rty
Does the marks kit work in the same way as the one above (from sky manufacturing)?
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:09 pm
by Mr DJ
Yes Andy.
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:56 pm
by bribiesurf
It may seem a stupid question, possibly an engineer can answer best, but why is it done this way for the ifs hub conversion versus spacing the brake caliper out 34mm with the corresponding longer bolts, so surf / LN106 ventilated disks and calipers can be used, a far superior brake setup?
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:12 pm
by Mr DJ
I'm still using the Surf calipers with LN106/60 series vented rotors, so same braking setup. Can use the thinner non-vented rotors & matching calipers if you wish as in Andy's pic.
Making an acceptable bracket, etc. to move a brake caliper 30mm+ horizontally that an engineer will pass is more problematic, when I looked into it anyway.
Used locktite during spacer assembly and no issues to date.
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:00 am
by lockedlux
sorry had no internet lately.......ive looks into that and wondered how safe it is? just testing the fact of running a solid axel disc on the surf hub (redilled holes) and running caliper mounted on inside of mount instead of outside...what would everyone say on this, ie pros and cons? pics:
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:33 pm
by lockedlux
anyone?
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:49 pm
by Mr DJ
Never thought of trying it that way.
If it lines up the caliper exactly over the centre of the rotor, should work.
The bolts holding the caliper might be a PITA to get on and off tho.
What did you redrill to fit ... caliper/rotor ?
Maybe have an engineer look at it for some feedback ?
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:03 pm
by lockedlux
Mr DJ wrote:Never thought of trying it that way.
If it lines up the caliper exactly over the centre of the rotor, should work.
The bolts holding the caliper might be a PITA to get on and off tho.
What did you redrill to fit ... caliper/rotor ?
Maybe have an engineer look at it for some feedback ?
yeah its a pian and takes forever to put the bolts in and was thinking of taping a thread into caliper and drilling out hub. its very close to lining up, so thinking of taking 3mm off the tab mounts. it works out cheaper but a bit more labour i guess.....
cheers Tam
Re: hilux front diff with surf hubs?
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:19 am
by 80gus
I do not like it at all mate, i once looked into it too, it is done like that by some blokes in the u.s, but if you have to ask is it ok? and its brakes, do you really feel safe? All i can suggest is do not go cheap on brakes, is your, or your family's life really worth putting into that situation, where your asking opinions of others! get the spacers and do it properly!
Cheers Gus
