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split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:51 am
by pongo
can any one give any feedback in regards to running std split rims on a patrol/cruiser. I got a ute to use a daily driver/backup/cruiser recovery vehicle and was thinking of just using the split rims on it rather than going to 31x10.5 tyres.
Thanks
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:04 am
by poppywhite
The splits are more prone to punctures in the bush /dirt. That is why most change them. I personally like the 7.50 x 16 tyre, for value and choice . If you go to safety rims keep to 16". More choice in width, and sidewall ply. 285/75 = 33" approx 10"wide
31x10.5x15 is really a light duty tyre and you loose the overall diameter. Higher engin rpm ect.
personal choice, $$ if available to convert, reaally what you are doing.
I wish I had 16" rims not 15. in safety style
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:13 pm
by dogbreath_48
poppywhite wrote:The splits are more prone to punctures in the bush /dirt.
How so?
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:19 pm
by chunks
Yeh I thought they were more resilient to punctures? One disadvantage is that split rims and tyres are very heavy.
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:21 pm
by Rolly
go to a 16x7 steel rim and use the tyres off the split rims that way you dont have any drama with tubes and they will balance up alot better .
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:52 pm
by GaryP
Running low pressures with tubes/ split rims results in more punctures as the tube moves around in the tyre/ rim which causes chafing of the tube wich results in puctures. My wife's uncle ran splits on our canning trip last year, he had 6 punctures. When we changed the tubes all tyres had small beads of rubber in the casing.
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:59 pm
by V.W.Dave
Another down fall to the thinner style tyre used on split rims is on the highway at higher speeds they like to walk a little.
The advantage to split rims is in the bush you is easier to keep a few tubes then as few complete spare tyres.
I would put sunnies and 31s or 33s but that's me.
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:00 am
by Lawrence
7.50 16s on split rims also give a busier ride on pavement due to their unsprung mass which is more than that with other rims, especially alloys. Also takes more effort change tyres, because of weight.
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:04 am
by Lawrence
For some reason, i also seemed to have more punctures when i had split rims on the mk ute that i had, especially during the rainy season. When i changed to 31/10 the amount of punctures went dramatically down, and I did most of the driving on pavement.
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:56 am
by stinger
I have run both for quite a period of time so here are my thoughts in no particular order.
+ Splits are heavier
+ I use to think splits easier to repair in bush, however I have no problems changing one piece rims with the right knack.
+ Tall skinny tyres are the best less rolling resistance hence I like 235x85x16
+ Look at the load rating on the tyres that will give you an indication of strength
+ No difference I can remember between running splits and one piece, it comes down to how you drive and your tyre pressures more than the tyres unless they are on the last half of their life then you will be more prone to punctures and tyre failures.
+ 760x16 or similar tyres are dim a dozen in the out back so easy to get spares
+ you can always through a tube in a one piece
So my choice for my tourers is generally 16x7 one piece rim (steel or alloy your choice) and on a cruiser it would probably be 235x85x16 although you could go a little wider and still maintain the profile such as 265x75x16 although you may want an 16x8 rim.
* note - I am not a tyre professional, these are just my thoughs.
Cheers,
Stinger
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:10 pm
by hj 45
Use talcum powder in the tyre carcass and sprinkle the tube before installation, helps reduce friction. I personally haave had a good run from splitties, plus they're so easy to work on, a complete repair only takes a few minutes. If the vehicle is going to be in off road conditions almost all the time, use split rims and rag tyres. Also, having clean rims is a great help, no rust flakes or the like.
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:30 pm
by love ke70
i ran splitties for about 30K
til i wore them out, i loved them, only reason i didnt get another set is you cannot get tyres in those sizes cheap, but to be honest, im now running alloys with 265/75R16, and the economy is virtually no different on my ute
Re: split rims v's sunnies
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:33 am
by poppywhite
dogbreath_48 wrote:poppywhite wrote:The splits are more prone to punctures in the bush /dirt.
How so?
I cant answer your question, Is from experience of friends and others, some just regularly do puncture repir, and others have changed to sunny's and not have issues.
We all lived down tracks were the goats chose to make a raft and float down river than use road
Branding of tubes and liners dont seem to matter. And is not sidewall spikeing, Maybe there is simply more movement of tyre on rim and pinching of the tube.
I would like t know the answer as well, But this is my experience and first hand knowledge from several others, not 3 or 5 people away.
Sorry I cant be more help.
I do like the 750x 16 tyre I think it is very versatile, much better value than 31x 10.5 x 15. I wish I had 16" rims for better tyre choice.