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Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:33 pm
by TheOtherLeft
Just found this relatively scientific test on whether it's better to mount your snorkel head forwards of backwards by measuring the pressure drop:

Scroll past the Espanol to the english section.
http://tucanviajero.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -aire.html

Granted it's not the most scientific or clear where they take their readings from but it's interesting reading.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:08 pm
by MICK77
I run my snorkel head facing the windscreen. It is approximately 130 degrees from facing forward. I run it like this as a compromise between avoiding hang ups and disturbing air flow. I have no scientific data to prove if it works or not. All I know is it drives the same as facing forwards and I haven't hooked it on anything since I rotated it.

Just my 2c.

Cheers,

Micko

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:19 pm
by KiwiBacon
To summarise:
They found a difference of ~14 cm of H2O at 130km/h. The normal atmosphere is around 10,000 cm of H2O.

At legal speeds, it makes no difference at all. If you can do 300km/h it's worth pointing it forwards.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:43 am
by jetjr
Not sure where your 1 Bar atmosphere number comes from or its relevance?

Theres not much result but its something, 0.2 PSI if I read it right, more than I thought there would be. Plenty of engines only run 10psi boost so 2%
This would certainly help overcome airfilter restriction, bends etc.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:21 am
by KiwiBacon
jetjr wrote:Not sure where your 1 Bar atmosphere number comes from or its relevance?

Theres not much result but its something, 0.2 PSI if I read it right, more than I thought there would be. Plenty of engines only run 10psi boost so 2%
This would certainly help overcome airfilter restriction, bends etc.
1 bar is atmospheric pressure. It is what is there pushing air into all those non turbo engines.
The maximum you can get at 100km/h is 0.4%. It's nowhere near 2% and to get that you need an intake the size of a rubbish bin to slow the air enough. Basically unless you can do 300km/h it's not worth the effort, all you will do is catch more bugs, leaves and dust.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:41 am
by jetjr
Yeah, did the conversion myself rather than using the one from the document it amounts to stuff all, more like what I expected.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:59 am
by Guy
KiwiBacon wrote:
jetjr wrote:Not sure where your 1 Bar atmosphere number comes from or its relevance?

Theres not much result but its something, 0.2 PSI if I read it right, more than I thought there would be. Plenty of engines only run 10psi boost so 2%
This would certainly help overcome airfilter restriction, bends etc.
1 bar is atmospheric pressure. It is what is there pushing air into all those non turbo engines.
The maximum you can get at 100km/h is 0.4%. It's nowhere near 2% and to get that you need an intake the size of a rubbish bin to slow the air enough. Basically unless you can do 300km/h it's not worth the effort, all you will do is catch more bugs, leaves and dust.

Its like the great big intercooler scoops you see on some WRX's bonnets ... Now on paper they seem like a good idea .. cool the incomming air charge by an additional few degree's ... but the extra kilowatt or two generated does not offset the additional drag created by this new sail you have just added to the car ..

So in short the additional drag created by the snorkle will more than offset any small gains had at the flywheel.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:35 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
These snorkels we sell for the Tritons and the Vigo's dont seem to have any noticable difference than a forward facing snorkel.

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Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:05 pm
by toaddog
I would rather be running a precleaner

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:17 am
by Yom
why not a Pod filter?

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:33 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
I dont think pre cleaners and pod filters would help a 4wd vehicle when a water crossing is involved.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:47 pm
by toaddog
By precleaner I meant a dust seperator that sits on top of the snorkel.

Re: Snorkel head forwards/backwards test

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:39 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
toaddog wrote:By precleaner I meant a dust seperator that sits on top of the snorkel.
My apologies i thought you were actually meaning not to use a snorkel :oops: