Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I will be at Superior tomorrow doing my big mods.

tell mick i said he is gay, and Ruff said hi

yeah say hi from me aswell, what is mick doin for ya?

Crossover steer, IFS leafs front dropped hanger, new shackle mounts, Explorer leafs rear, new rear hangers maybe new rear shackle mounts, track bar, all new shock towers, using 80 series diffs under the lux.

Hopefully I'm helping out as much as I can, cos now I see this list it is looking pretty expensive.

Will pass on your regards Nick.

Josh.

if you dont mind me asking, whats that costing?

hows the X-over going to work with a leaf front end and 80's king pins?


NICK

Gee Nick, doesn't 80's come wif crossover standard?

Got a hi steer arm from John in Sydney, (same guy as hypo used) and we'll have to wait and see if it's high enuf to clear leaf pack.

As for cost, well, I've been saving.... trying not to think about it.

Josh

my concern with the cross over was like you said, clearing the leaf pack and way that it looks as thou the drag link should run through the pack.


NICK

If it's not right John will make another he said, tho would set me back time wise. Good bloke.

i cant see why it wouldnt work, some great bloke put mick onto some really short pitman arms for the IFS toyota boxes so you will be able to get the axle well forward and the drag link flat


NICK

Hmmm... would that b the same great bloke who said freewheelin hubs weren't possible on 80's? LOL.

Actually I don't know if I'll go the super short pitman, cos if u look at the pic of the steering arm where the draglink mounts is further out than standard, so I'll end up with next to no turning circle with a short pitman.

Maybe 80 series?

Not knocking Johns work but i have seen 80series arms that look stronger than that and pick up on more places fail. I cant see the two bolts holding it onto the top of the knuckle lasting long.

Sorry for thread hijack steve. I'm sure Nick can fix it.

I fixed it for you.

Thanks Tony, you left one post behind.

There's a few rigs running around with these arms, and it seems a few shops are in a hurry to copy, but like you said Ruff there is prolly a better way.

But for me it is the only option ATMO, and believe me I think I tried em all, and engineer was won over easy too, so I'm happy for the moment.

I think it realy needs to pick up on at least one of the caliper bolts and also the Steering stop bolt. We are having problems with High steer arms on Hilux's comming loose and these are held on at the Knuckle with 4 bolts. Its a lot of force being applied once you are offroad and bound up.

What is the bolt on its own out near the end at the top?

That bolt goes all the way thu into the original steering arm.

So it aint gonna fail in a hurry. With the original 4 bolts holding the std steer arm that makes 6 bolts securing arm to knuckle.

Is the bearing support the original toyota one just welded to the arm or is it a part of the arm?

original, welded.

From the first pic i thought the arm was just sitting on top of it but if its been made into part of it then its going to be a little stronger. Good luck with it anyway.

With all the work you are doing why not Link the front end rather than going with leaves?

Yes, I wonder that too now. I rang a few shops about going coils and unless it was bundera gear they weren't interested.

I guess there are only a few who know how to set up coil fronts right first time. I should have contacted you guys I think, I keep thinking you are way out in the stix.

We are a lot closer to you than Mick is. But we wouldnt take on a job like this. We dont do any 4wd mods to make money. We build Airconditioning Units for Trucks. 4WDs are a hobby to us. We do make a few custom parts but this is usually only when the AC work is quiet. The Traction Control and Our Heavy Duty CVs are about the only other things we are getting into seriously.

We should have heavy duty CVs for Toyotas available to the general public by the end of the month. Cost will be $250 each.

Ahhh, it all makes sense now.

the steering arm will not clear the springs - when i did my perches i tried to make them as low as humanly possible without going stupid. I have 6 leaf spring packs. Unless there is at least a 25mm raise in the steering arm it wont fit. Anyway good luck it might work.

slosh wrote:Hmmm... would that b the same great bloke who said freewheelin hubs weren't possible on 80's? LOL.

Nar different bloke, that bloke gets wankers ringing him all the time with shit and doesnt really listen to what people say as they waste his time


NICK

bubs wrote:the steering arm will not clear the springs - when i did my perches i tried to make them as low as humanly possible without going stupid. I have 6 leaf spring packs. Unless there is at least a 25mm raise in the steering arm it wont fit. Anyway good luck it might work.

you need to C notch the diff and lower the pearch

NICK wrote:

bubs wrote:the steering arm will not clear the springs - when i did my perches i tried to make them as low as humanly possible without going stupid. I have 6 leaf spring packs. Unless there is at least a 25mm raise in the steering arm it wont fit. Anyway good luck it might work.

you need to C notch the diff and lower the pearch

thats what i was talking about going stupid

so hows the swap going

RUFF wrote:We are a lot closer to you than Mick is. But we wouldnt take on a job like this. We dont do any 4wd mods to make money. We build Airconditioning Units for Trucks. 4WDs are a hobby to us. We do make a few custom parts but this is usually only when the AC work is quiet. The Traction Control and Our Heavy Duty CVs are about the only other things we are getting into seriously.

We should have heavy duty CVs for Toyotas available to the general public by the end of the month. Cost will be $250 each.

consider one set sold, let me know when ready
cheers
steve

Swap going pretty good- couple of problems being fuel tank relocation and going to 60 series p/steer box to regain some turning circle.

Should be on the road next week.

Pics dammit ...