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Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:20 am
by TheOtherLeft
I'm up for changing my thermostat housing and maybe transmission screen and hence need to change the gasket.
I intend to use a cork gasket but have been told it's wise to use some silicon gasket maker as well.
What's the deal with the different types of gasket makers - there's red, blue, ultra blue, silver, gold, black, grey etc?
http://www.permatex.com/products/Automo ... makers.htm
Other then sensor safe (I assume for the O2 sensor) and temperature range is one better then the other? They all say there are suitable for things like thermostat housings etc.
Cheers,
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:00 pm
by GUtripper
If it says its OK to use, it is.
I use black RVT on just about everything and never had a failure.
Just make sure you dont get too happy with it and end up restricting the thermostat operation.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:57 pm
by Josh n Kat
i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.
They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)
i always make sure i have a tube at home!
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:36 pm
by Willy Hilux
I use ultra blue. Good for O2 sensors as well. Good for diffs and gearboxes.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:38 pm
by RAY185
Willy Hilux wrote:I use ultra blue. Good for O2 sensors as well. Good for diffs and gearboxes.
x2. Good for almost everything! Use it on cooling system parts quite regularly.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:51 pm
by skips_BIGRED
i'm in the same boat,
was told on the weekend that ultra grey is the go with diffs.
i talked to someone at repco, and they said just as long as it has a high resistance to oils it'll be fine.
http://www.permatex.com/products/automo ... _Maker.htm
Designed specially for high-torque and high vibration applications,
this sounds like the go for me, especially with my darn simex's!
lol
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:57 pm
by skootin
Get some spray paint and paint the CORK gasket before you remove the old gasket it will help seal it.
I prefer loctite 515 & 510
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:17 am
by UhhOhh
Ultra blue is the stuff, only problem it sets you back about 60 dollars a farken tube!
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:20 am
by Rhett
I use ultra copper for everything but mine gets hot, real hot
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:06 pm
by GUtripper
GUtripper wrote:If it says its OK to use, it is.
I use black RVT on just about everything and never had a failure.
Just make sure you dont get too happy with it and end up restricting the thermostat operation.
Edit: I also use GM Sealant around water jackets etc (ie under the V8 intake). Exxy but great stuff, a tin lasts a long time.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:22 pm
by OUTLAW565
3 bond is the best you can get...Period.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:34 pm
by Willy Hilux
UhhOhh wrote:Ultra blue is the stuff, only problem it sets you back about 60 dollars a farken tube!
Cheap where I get it from....
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:57 pm
by simcoz
I use blue max on most parts that aren't near anything to hot and high temp(red) around the hot stuff.
Don't use gasket goo on your auto's pan,the cork gasket will do the job fine,just dont over tighten the bolts as this is the cause of most cork gasket leaks.
also store your open tubes of gasket goo in the fridge so it wont dry up,also extends the shelf life.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:31 pm
by TheOtherLeft
simcoz wrote:I use blue max on most parts that aren't near anything to hot and high temp(red) around the hot stuff.
Don't use gasket goo on your auto's pan,the cork gasket will do the job fine,just dont over tighten the bolts as this is the cause of most cork gasket leaks.
also store your open tubes of gasket goo in the fridge so it wont dry up,also extends the shelf life.
What's too hot? engine block, turbo or exhaust?
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:55 pm
by chunks
Wurth Silicon Special 250 or 3-bond. Toyota sealant is good too.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:57 pm
by simcoz
TheOtherLeft wrote:simcoz wrote:I use blue max on most parts that aren't near anything to hot and high temp(red) around the hot stuff.
Don't use gasket goo on your auto's pan,the cork gasket will do the job fine,just dont over tighten the bolts as this is the cause of most cork gasket leaks.
also store your open tubes of gasket goo in the fridge so it wont dry up,also extends the shelf life.
What's too hot? engine block, turbo or exhaust?
Yeah turbo and exhaust.Just check the what temps are on the tube because they vary between brands.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:25 pm
by phat-customs
Josh n Kat wrote:i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.
They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)
i always make sure i have a tube at home!
Toyota "Black" on engine
Toyota "Red" on Diffs/Gearboxes/Transfers.
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:30 pm
by TheOtherLeft
phat-customs wrote:Josh n Kat wrote:i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.
They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)
i always make sure i have a tube at home!
Toyota "Black" on engine
Toyota "Red" on Diffs/Gearboxes/Transfers.
What's the chance Toyota "black" and "red" are Permatex (or equivalent) "ultra black" and "red" gaskets?
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:08 pm
by phat-customs
TheOtherLeft wrote:phat-customs wrote:Josh n Kat wrote:i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.
They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)
i always make sure i have a tube at home!
Toyota "Black" on engine
Toyota "Red" on Diffs/Gearboxes/Transfers.
What's the chance Toyota "black" and "red" are Permatex (or equivalent) "ultra black" and "red" gaskets?
Anythings possible I guess, they just seem to work REALLY WELL! Maybe its just the toyota box that they put it in that makes it sooper dooper!
They may be made by permatex, but to Toyota's "specs" perhaps?!
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:57 pm
by MICK77
OUTLAW565 wrote:3 bond is the best you can get...Period.
x2
There are many different grades, all with great performance.
I use 1215 (gray) & 1207C (red).
Best sealer I've ever used.
Cheers,
Micko
Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:16 pm
by Skegbudley
I use permatex #3 on just about everything. Never had an oil or water leak on any gasket painted with that stuff.