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Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:56 am
by gudge
Hi guys. I've just bought a 2000 gu wagon with an alloy front bar on it. Now I've got steel winch bar off a 99 ute with a ding in the left hand side and was thinking bout cutting off the sides off the winch cradle part and welding on some tube "wings". All good until I thought of the airbags. So what I wanna know is if and how can I do it. Where are the sensors? And how do they work? Thanks guys
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:33 pm
by Yom
inertia sensors mounted on either firewall, floorpan around transmission tunnel or under front seats or around steering column...can't remember exactly for the GU.
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:19 pm
by gudge
Oh really , so i shouldn't have a problem modifying the bullbar, well as far as the airbags go anyway
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:51 pm
by 4wheelinls1
If you modify the bar you will potentially make the car unroadworthy, the bar has passed testing to assure its operation with airbags, no modification is allowed on these from a roadworthy perspective.
Joel
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:58 am
by gudge
As I suspected
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:40 pm
by nabstud
It will bolt up no worries, but the mounts are made differently so they don't affect the airbag operation.
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:12 pm
by brooksy
gudge wrote:Oh really , so i shouldn't have a problem modifying the bullbar, well as far as the airbags go anyway
Depends where you want to modify the bar
brooksy
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:24 am
by pigletracing
4wheelinls1 wrote:If you modify the bar you will potentially make the car unroadworthy, the bar has passed testing to assure its operation with airbags, no modification is allowed on these from a roadworthy perspective.
Joel
what joel says is quite true. thats why the likes of ARB, TJM ect spend thou$and$ to get there bars approved so if you have a crash you will be covered by insurance.
now with saying that, if you want to put a custom bar on your car, thats up to you, just like thousands of us have.(I have them on mine)
at the ends of your chassis there are some angled up peices that are a little crinkly looking, they are about 6" long & look like they are part of your chassis. they are the crush tubes, a bullbar ( factory bumper, ARB, TJM, custom ect) bolt to this.
Its this crush tube that in an impact will give, & depending on how much it gives is what makes the air bags go off. So basicly its not the bar itself, but what the bar is bolted to that wil make the airbags work.
cheers piggy
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:15 pm
by 85lux
The testing for airbag compatibility for bulbars is to make sure the airbags do not go off in a small crash. ie hitting a roo on the freeway. Thats why arb etc allow for their bars to slide/give in a crash. This ensures that any small impacts are not transferred in a "sharp" manner which may deploy the airbag blinding the driver if it is not needed.
Jim
Re: Custom front bar vs airbags
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:23 pm
by cruzinnboozn
85lux wrote:The testing for airbag compatibility for bulbars is to make sure the airbags do not go off in a small crash. ie hitting a roo on the freeway.
I would have said hitting a roo on a freeway would be a big crash......