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Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:27 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
Hey there beautiful minds.

ok i have 80 series diffs and want to be running full hydro.
its waaaay too much work to get my junk around the tight tracks of Milbrodale.

so ive looked at trail gears kit. it says it has a 6" double RAM.
I notice locktup4x4 have 8" and 10" rams.

who has done this sort of kit and what length ram is right for the application??

any help is appreciated.

Cheers

Twon

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:30 pm
by johnsy86
Ring chris (locktup) and get him to set u up with the PSC gear much better product than the trailgear rams, i think you would be looking at an 8" ram just check with him tho.

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:08 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
cheers i will speak to chris. but with the price of the trailgear kit and our strong dollar its hard to ignore.

anyone else?

cmon others have done this hook a brother up.

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:16 pm
by MogLux
Twon
80 series need a 8 inch ram... Mine runs a 9in ram... My old ram was a 6inch stroke and never got close to full lock... Are you wanting a double ram or single ???? I might be able to help you out as I have a few orbitrals and will be needing 2 new rams for my
Mogs

Matt

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:07 pm
by brooksy
8" PSC single 1.5" is all you will need. Best kit for your $$$ by far. Only thing better is Howe but not necessary & to be honest don't see the benefit.
The only thing is you need to ask yourself will you ever go full hydro, if the answer is YES then look into double end as you can still use in an assist system.



brooksy

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:57 pm
by rockcrawler31
send a PM and have a chat to 75kruser off here. Recently put a hydro assist on his 75 series with 80 series diffs. Used the Locktup kit as far as i know.

whichever one he used, he rates it.

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:03 am
by micka1
DRS your 160inch wheelbase is probably half your problem :finger: :finger:
Na seriously speak to Chris over at Locktup4x4 he'll be able to help you out with it without a doubt .

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:52 am
by Ice
twon if your keen my assist setup will be forsale at some time.. ported 80 box and single ended ram brackets and reinforced tie rod drag link thingy.. used for bugger all too ready to pretty much bolt in to your junk

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:37 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
sorry to clarify(i think it said it originally)
im wanting full hydro.
i figure why do it twice, just say f*ck it and go full hydro.
i will speak to chris from locktup for sure before i purchase.

matt can you flick me a message on what you have and what you want for it mate?

grant chasing full hydro.

mick, haha its only 120. part of the plan is to fix this issue, although it is budget dependant. i would rather put hydro and stuff on it first and do wheelbase later as it will blow cost out with new shafts, links, change to single transfer etc.

brooksy yeah double end is the go. man ive seen some good double ender shows at bucks shows etc.

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:09 am
by 11_evl
use your tie rod and a marker and measure it yourself....
put a mark at full lock and turn to opposite lock and put a mark, than measure. your set up may be different to others. bad thing with hydro is if the ram is longer than it needs it will bend stuff till it get to full stroke (if your still trying to turn)... it can be over come by putting stops inside rams but better to measure your self and get it right

just a thought

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:39 pm
by MADSHORT
can i get a quick run down on whats wrong with hydro assist if you guys dont mind
cheers
Gordon

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:11 pm
by MogLux
MADSHORT wrote:can i get a quick run down on whats wrong with hydro assist if you guys dont mind
cheers
Gordon

Gordan nothing is wrong with Hydro Asist, but on rigs like ours... were we dont have to have rego full hydro is better the steering links are gone and we can modify it to get more flex out of the front without having to worry about steering arms, X over steering etc...
For a Rego truck hydro is the only option if you want to keep it regoed.. Hydro-Asist is only worth wild on trucks running 38s or bigger.. any thing under that the standard Power steering is enough...
Matt

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:11 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
gordon,
for me personally i have a draglink infront of the diff.
its a constant concern. the way the tuff truck tracks are with so many rocks in the way.
also the tracks are sooo tight now.
some turns are about 110degrees and not wide.
its a matter of 10 back and fills with power steering or 1 with hydro.

and i figure if im going to upgrade from power steering i may as well go the whole way to full hydro.

Twon

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:35 am
by MADSHORT
thanks for reply guys
want to keep regoe for some of the comps
so will go assist
been away from comp for so long its not funny
cheers
Gordon

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:37 am
by Ice
twon you might be suprised how well hydro assist works, that was the advice the emo gave me.. and he was correct, the only reason i didnt go full hydro was the link setup in mine, as this is going to change ill then change to full hydro purely to beat you on the travel ramp :P

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:43 am
by MogLux
Ice wrote:twon you might be suprised how well hydro assist works, that was the advice the emo gave me.. and he was correct, the only reason i didnt go full hydro was the link setup in mine, as this is going to change ill then change to full hydro purely to beat you on the travel ramp :P
You got a long way to go to get me on the ramp.... Hahaha :finger:

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:09 am
by Ice
macarthur 4x4 wrote:
Ice wrote:twon you might be suprised how well hydro assist works, that was the advice the emo gave me.. and he was correct, the only reason i didnt go full hydro was the link setup in mine, as this is going to change ill then change to full hydro purely to beat you on the travel ramp :P
You got a long way to go to get me on the ramp.... Hahaha :finger:
we shall see :) your mogs may make you tip over :)

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:47 am
by MogLux
Ice wrote:
macarthur 4x4 wrote:
Ice wrote:twon you might be suprised how well hydro assist works, that was the advice the emo gave me.. and he was correct, the only reason i didnt go full hydro was the link setup in mine, as this is going to change ill then change to full hydro purely to beat you on the travel ramp :P
You got a long way to go to get me on the ramp.... Hahaha :finger:
we shall see :) your mogs may make you tip over :)

HAHAHH you wish... if anything with the newfront suspension setup i will get further up it... :D

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:59 pm
by ljmonsta80
has anyone used yuri for a hydro assist kit on an 80 ??

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:10 pm
by Ice
ljmonsta80 wrote:has anyone used yuri for a hydro assist kit on an 80 ??
you could probally pm evan on that one

i think thats where he got some work done

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:37 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
grant surely you beat me on the ramp?
If not then :finger: ive got the longest wheelbase in history.

Yeah unfortunately matt smashes me on the ramp and likely always will.

Cheers for the assistance guys.


Twon

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:52 pm
by Ice
DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:grant surely you beat me on the ramp?
If not then :finger: ive got the longest wheelbase in history.

Yeah unfortunately matt smashes me on the ramp and likely always will.

Cheers for the assistance guys.


Twon
not sure Twon had a badly adjusted limit strap on the right rear holding it up, had to back down a ways to get it on the ground lol

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:23 pm
by Jcas24
the full hydro on scotts 40, with 44's it only takes one finger on the wheel to turn from lock to lock. full hydro ftw (if you have no rego ofcourse)

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:40 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
joel yeah thats the plan.

i spoke to chris at locktup yesterday and he was very helpful.

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:57 am
by bigorangetruck
Hey mate,
as joel said mate,one finger to turn the wheel lock to lock,I think we spoke about that at TTC.All you need is the orbital,8" ram,traillgear pump and the steering shaft for the orbital,when you get all that come over take some measurements(or ask bogan to fab up the same mount as mine,,sorry boges) and we`ll organise the right hoses for ya.I spoke to ryan at snake for my bits,he did me a good deal,but i bought a crap load off him,so he`d want to give a good deal!

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:31 am
by hammey
Happy to Sponser you FREE D2900 hosing for the project as well as spiral wrap pressure guages and spares........

All i request is front grill space :finger: :finger: :finger:

cheers smitty

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:37 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
scotty cheers dude. always helps to look at someone elses kit.

hammey cut it out. i see your junk has a motor sitting in it and is on the hoist now. made it harder to wipe my a$$ on it.
are you the hose guru mate?
is D2900 the go is it?

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:23 pm
by hammey
Its just a standard mate, but seriously talk to me before you go purchasing any fittings or hoses.

cheers smitty

Re: Full Hydro steer to 80 diffs which ram?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:59 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
smitty cheers bloke