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Anyone else had their mickey t's fall apart?

Ive had a really god run with them up till now

the pics dont look as bad as it is in real life, they have split all the way thru the top layer and into the carcass

Happened to my claws. Never had an issue with leaks/failures. But did tear blocks off down to the steel belt. (2yrs old) Not cool.

Put it down to their age (4yrs) and left it at that.

Id be kicking over a few stones if they are newish.

My MTZ are 15k old, getting 500hp through them and only chipping the face edge a little. No cracks.

Time for some radial treps

I had a old set of bias claws that used to throw lugs too. But they where super old and they always held air

X3 for the old factor, my ones that sat for 2 odd years before i bought them 2nd hand did the same. Never lost any lugs, though the same cracking was experienced.. I wouldnt really worry about it until you start losing lugs left right and centre, those cracks will probably not eventuate into anything for another 20,000km

looks like maybe too high pressures run on dirt roads/tracks.

I've got a spare BFG Mud terrain from an ORR Buggy and the lugs look exactly like yours.

What are the dates on the tyres?

dank wrote:looks like maybe too high pressures run on dirt roads/tracks.

I've got a spare BFG Mud terrain from an ORR Buggy and the lugs look exactly like yours.

I'm currently in Weipa, have been here a month and have never run more than 26 psi on the roads up here at the cape.

So that's that theory f'ed

VooDoo wrote:What are the dates on the tyres?

I dunno, they r only 6 months old. But that's not too say they haven't been sitting round

Besides the cracks the pitting also looks pretty extreme, could it just be the result of the roads you are running them on, are the roads that rough?, I have not seen a claw with that sort of pitting.

Cheers

Struth wrote:Besides the cracks the pitting also looks pretty extreme, could it just be the result of the roads you are running them on, are the roads that rough?, I have not seen a claw with that sort of pitting.

Cheers

The roads up here are really good at the moment. Fronts are fine and I have been using 4wd on the fast rough stuff so u would think fronts would be doing the same ?

My mate with me is running claws also and it hasnt worried his at all.

mate if they only 6 mnths old i personally would be making noise at the tyre shop. Thats not good enough for an extreme mud rated tyre or any tyre for that matter.

When you come back down via brissy go see Fourby's (MT dealers), the dealer in cooktown is also pretty good too (sells more than Cairns). Id say the 2 tyres doing that are pretty old stock. There is a 4 digit date on the sidewall. See if the 2 damaged ones are older than the others. I know the Distributor/importer so might be able to help out if its a warranty issue. They are normally pretty good with that side of things.

The only 4 digit number I can find is 1809 , doesn't seem like a date to me.

It could be more than 3 months b4 I get to brissy, i highly doubt these tyres will still be in one piece by then

My MTZ's are doing the same thing.

1809 Im pretty sure is the 18th week 2009. Thats how I have read them.

Not old at all!

vanbox wrote:1809 Im pretty sure is the 18th week 2009. Thats how I have read them.

Not old at all!

correct, first 2 digits are the week and last 2 the year

Only the rears? Would it be that they do more work behind a supercharged LS1?

Swap the tyres front to rear and keep an eye on them.

-Scott- wrote:Only the rears? Would it be that they do more work behind a supercharged LS1?

Swap the tyres front to rear and keep an eye on them.

On the gravel (which I guess is wats killing them) I generally run high 4, so they should all b doing the same amount of work

crankycruiser wrote:

-Scott- wrote:Only the rears? Would it be that they do more work behind a supercharged LS1?

Swap the tyres front to rear and keep an eye on them.

On the gravel (which I guess is wats killing them) I generally run high 4, so they should all b doing the same amount of work

When you step on the loud pedal, and that supercharged V8 starts earning its keep, weight transfers to the rear. I've seen how an N/A LS2 lifts its nose under power - I imagine yours will be at least as bad. The rear tyres will be under more load than the front under these circumstances, and any slip will create more damage on the rear tyres than the front tyres.

I could be wrong. Swap the tyres and see if the same two tyres continue to deteriorate.

I've had 2 replaced my M/T no questions asked. About 8,000kms Mine had a big tear across one lug and the other cracked along the sidewall. Took them back at two different times and were replaced no probs.

Maybe send those or other photos to a M/T rep and see what they say?

My MTZ's never had the chipping or chunks coming off, but thats probably because they were made of recycled condoms and were down to 6mm of tread left at 10K kms and on the wear bars at 29,000...

crankycruiser wrote:

Struth wrote:Besides the cracks the pitting also looks pretty extreme, could it just be the result of the roads you are running them on, are the roads that rough?, I have not seen a claw with that sort of pitting.

Cheers

The roads up here are really good at the moment. Fronts are fine and I have been using 4wd on the fast rough stuff so u would think fronts would be doing the same ?

My mate with me is running claws also and it hasnt worried his at all.

All the sealed roads in Weipa are bauxite. That will wear your tires down like nothing.

It's not the wear that worries me, its the lugs that are about to tear off the tyres.

About the wear tho. my mates who live here (weipa) don't have problems with wear like that.

Deffinately get in touch with M/T rep and lodge a complaint that way you will have a date for them to reference when you do get to the tire shop in a couple of months.
Running decent HP will have some effect on wear but ripping the lugs is a new one for me .
I run the Claws on road and have a bit of HP running through them but they haven't ripped lugs like yours have.

the torque your supercharged ls1 makes is the problem .

flexytj wrote:the torque your supercharged ls1 makes is the problem .

Makes sense but surprises me that the tears are on the front and rears of the lugs in a few of the pictures.

thehanko wrote:

flexytj wrote:the torque your supercharged ls1 makes is the problem .

Makes sense but surprises me that the tears are on the front and rears of the lugs in a few of the pictures.

Good point. I guess he steps on the loud pedal in reverse too?

Maybe there is something wrong with the tyres, but I'm surprised that people are surprised. These are tyres that grip very well, behind an engine with lots of grunt, and these blocks are, after all, made of rubber. If these tyres don't lose their grip easily then, when they do let go, how can people expect them to not cut, chip or tear?

The mate with tyres that aren't struggling. What does he drive?

-Scott- wrote:

thehanko wrote:

flexytj wrote:the torque your supercharged ls1 makes is the problem .

Makes sense but surprises me that the tears are on the front and rears of the lugs in a few of the pictures.

Good point. I guess he steps on the loud pedal in reverse too?

Maybe there is something wrong with the tyres, but I'm surprised that people are surprised. These are tyres that grip very well, behind an engine with lots of grunt, and these blocks are, after all, made of rubber. If these tyres don't lose their grip easily then, when they do let go, how can people expect them to not cut, chip or tear?

The mate with tyres that aren't struggling. What does he drive?

LOL @ stepping on the loud pedal in reverse........

he is running 36x15.5 claws, 105 series petrol.

I dont think its a HP/torque issue. As I said before, it was happening to me with the TD42T (140rwhp) and tore a lug clean off to the belt. Also had those cracks like in the pics but nothing ever failed.

Different tyre but its not happening with my MTZ's and a duramax.