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v6 and water
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:44 pm
by tozook
would a Snorkel help a v6 commodore motor when going through water??
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:09 pm
by Hybrid
It will help it if the level reaches the air intake in regard to sucking water which destroys the engine. But with all the electronics involved with the v6 it is more likely to have problems with these well before the snorkel is useful. I've heard the MAP sensors dont go to well when submerged. Maybe some of the other guys on the board know of ways to waterproof them.
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:54 pm
by Raymond Spackman
The crank angle sencor which is behind the harmonic balancer would cause a lot of problems under water
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:35 pm
by rowan
hey guys-i've been wondering this myself- i can't decide wether to buy a stock V6 4runner or a 2.8 diesel- would the 4runner V6 be more suited to water crossings or have the same problems as commo engines? i'm assuming the diesel will have no problems with water? also, why is it that when you stall a car in water, starting it again sucks water into the engine (or so i have been told).
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:53 am
by De-lux
diesel or petrol, they will both suck in water.
believe me i know. im halfway though rebuilding my 2.8D from water inhalation.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:44 am
by dumbdunce
De-lux wrote:diesel or petrol, they will both suck in water.
believe me i know. im halfway though rebuilding my 2.8D from water inhalation.

2.8D DC Lux, 4" lift, 31" Simex, TJM Bars, GME UHF, JVC MP3, JL Audio
does that mean we'll see 'snorkel' added to that list?
the question is really, why do you want to be able to cross deep water? are you just an idiot hooligan who feels the need to attempt to destroy his vehicle and the environment? or are you a missionary deep in the african jungle who has a genuine need to cross deep water? driving in deep water should be avoided whenever possible - water = damage even if your engine is well protected. even with extended breathers it works its way into diffs, gearboxes, bearings, dilutes the oil and destroys expensive bits. add to that submerged objects and deep holes in water that you can't see and you have a recipe for expensive repairs and potential personal injury.
deep water, just say no

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:35 pm
by rowan
dumbdunce wrote:De-lux wrote:diesel or petrol, they will both suck in water.
believe me i know. im halfway though rebuilding my 2.8D from water inhalation.

2.8D DC Lux, 4" lift, 31" Simex, TJM Bars, GME UHF, JVC MP3, JL Audio
does that mean we'll see 'snorkel' added to that list?
the question is really, why do you want to be able to cross deep water? are you just an idiot hooligan who feels the need to attempt to destroy his vehicle and the environment? or are you a missionary deep in the african jungle who has a genuine need to cross deep water? driving in deep water should be avoided whenever possible - water = damage even if your engine is well protected. even with extended breathers it works its way into diffs, gearboxes, bearings, dilutes the oil and destroys expensive bits. add to that submerged objects and deep holes in water that you can't see and you have a recipe for expensive repairs and potential personal injury.
deep water, just say no

i am a biologist who specialises in reptiles- ergo i am planning numerous trips north, where they are found in greater diversity- they are active at the warmest time of year which unfortunately happens to be the wettest- just want to be prepared- would avoid water crossings if possible.
On that note, would it be possible to fully protect a car against water damage? and dee-lux did you actually do a water crossing without a snorkel or did the engine suck water through some other means ? i am considering a 2.8 4runner (and maybe turbo or supercharge it)
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:25 pm
by dumbdunce
rowan wrote:
On that note, would it be possible to fully protect a car against water damage?
i am considering a 2.8 4runner (and maybe turbo or supercharge it)
it's impossible to "fully" protect a vehicle from water damage, but having a diesel with a well sealed snorkel, and extending your axle and gearbox breathers to the top of the engine bay is a good start. if you drive into water deeper than your snorkel (1) you're an idiot

(2) the vehicle will float... for a while... till it sinks... then water will get into the motor.
as for the inside of the vehicle, no. water always gets in if you go deep - if you wat a vehicle that can handle deeper than normal water crossings, pull the plugs out of the floor, and fit bilge pumps.
as for finding a 2.8 4runner, good luck! they are pretty rare. they go nicely with a turbo though. I think a dual cab hilux would suit your purposes better but then I don't know what else you want to do with it.