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Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:59 pm
by patrol_maverick
I fitted a GU front end to my Maverick and got the death wobbles. I got the wheel alignment checked and it's sitting at 5-degrees positive. I was told this is is most likely the cause of the wobbles which seems understandable (and everything else checks out ok).
I've got Flex arms, so that leaves no physical way of adjusting castor (apart from replacing them). I've gone back to my original idea of fitting a 5-link front with adjustable uppers, that way I get better flex and adjustable caster.
Where can I get a bolt on adjustable 5-link kit from? One that's know to be ok on road.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:13 pm
by turbo gu
Really wont get any more flex! Probably wont help your steering wobble either! If your caster is out that much are your arms wrong eg incorrect castor correction?? They might suit a bigger lift
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:11 pm
by patrol_maverick
I know I won't get any more flex, but won't the 5-link be less restrictive in its movement? It should help the steering if it can be adjusted to correct the caster. It's at 5-degrees positive and the specs are 2-3 degrees positive, so it only has to be changed a small amount.
The arms I have are 5-6 inch ones and I have 5 inch petrol springs, but they look sagged to about 4 inches with the weight of the diesel and winch.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:42 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
patrol_maverick wrote:I know I won't get any more flex, but won't the 5-link be less restrictive in its movement? It should help the steering if it can be adjusted to correct the caster. It's at 5-degrees positive and the specs are 2-3 degrees positive, so it only has to be changed a small amount.
The arms I have are 5-6 inch ones and I have 5 inch petrol springs, but they look sagged to about 4 inches with the weight of the diesel and winch.
If your caster is out a 5 link will be worse.
You have to take into account the tire size when ordering radius arm, superflex arms, drop boxes or any type of caster correction , generally a 35 inch tire in a nissan you can go 1 degrees less on the arms.
So a 5 inch lift with say 35's you would go a 4 inch arm, a 37 inch tire with a 5 inch lift you would go a 3 inch arm , it's sometimes a bit of a guess with nissan's what will drive the best .
hopefully if you purchased the arms from us you were given the right information.
If you have 5 degrees positive you could either lift the suspension 1-2 inch's to suit the arms, or replace the arms to suit the lift.
If you Bought the arms from us direct give us a call and we will work something out for you.
Mick
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Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:52 pm
by patrol_maverick
If I get a 5-link that is adjustable then how will it be worse? You'd just adjust it until the caster is good. Also how come you need less caster for larger tyres? I though positive caster was meant to add stability in the steering, wouldn't more be better as tyre size increases?
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:32 pm
by stevejl
Hi patrol_mavrick
this is a link to a crowd building 5 link packages
http://www.uteworld.com.au/products/calbah/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hope it helps. Cheers Steven
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:51 pm
by patrol_maverick
Cheers for the link but Calbah don't do those kits anymore unfortunatly.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:46 pm
by jrh86
Wizard engineering do a bolt in 5link kit 4 patrols
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:23 pm
by gudge
So what your saying superior is if I'm running a 3-4 " lift with 37's and no castor correction. my castor should almost be spot on? Just wondering cause I'm in the middle of a build. Sorry for the hijack by the way.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:46 pm
by Suspension Stuff
He is saying if you have a 5" lift with 37's get arms to suit a 4" lift.
I don't necessarily subscribe to this theory but I am open to it and have no evidence.
A 5 link will flex more then superflex arms when climbing something but you really get too much flex unless your arms are very short like a Jeep. You also should get better shocks that will reduce body roll without wrecking your ride like a Bilstein shock.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:26 pm
by Big_GQ
Wizard bolt in kits are weak and hang very low would not recommend it at all.go custom built and start from scratch.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:27 pm
by Suspension Stuff
Get on Pirate4x4 and learn about anti-squat etc.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:27 pm
by mabbsmad
i have had a Wizard 5 link in my GQ ute. i found it was faultless. best thing i ever did. corrected steering, flexed great.strong as,made with Chromoly not mild steel.Highly recomended. i will be getting 5 link and A arm for my build on my GU wagon. it is all personal choice..tried and proved.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:37 pm
by mabbsmad
Big_GQ wrote:Wizard bolt in kits are weak and hang very low would not recommend it at all.go custom built and start from scratch.
Not being a smart ass. but do you no this from experiance
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:32 pm
by Lepa
out of interest what was the wizard kit worth when you got it? i've just got flex arms for my ute but have always been keen on a 5link set up.
lepa
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:52 pm
by Big_GQ
mabbsmad wrote:Big_GQ wrote:Wizard bolt in kits are weak and hang very low would not recommend it at all.go custom built and start from scratch.
Not being a smart ass. but do you no this from experiance
Broke 2 lower arms sheared upper arm mnt bolts,hung very low hated it and sold it on eBay.
This was about 2 years ago.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:40 am
by patrol_maverick
I don't suppose you have any picts of the kit installed do you? Or any showing it when broken?
How did it break? In a comp?
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:16 pm
by mabbsmad
Big_GQ wrote:mabbsmad wrote:Big_GQ wrote:Wizard bolt in kits are weak and hang very low would not recommend it at all.go custom built and start from scratch.
Not being a smart ass. but do you no this from experiance
Broke 2 lower arms sheared upper arm mnt bolts,hung very low hated it and sold it on eBay.
This was about 2 years ago.
That is no good mate. did you buy it second hand or new....I no if you bought it new from Brent at Wizard, he would be really interested in what has happened to you...
cheers
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:17 pm
by mabbsmad
Lepa wrote:out of interest what was the wizard kit worth when you got it? i've just got flex arms for my ute but have always been keen on a 5link set up.
lepa
Not dead sure on price now...i think about $2000
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:59 am
by patrol_maverick
I've gone for the cheaper / quick fix alternative and orderd some Zordo drop boxes. I just need some arms since I sold my originals. I might build a 5-link later on once I've built a shed to work in.
Re: Back to 5-link idea... Where to buy one
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:04 am
by UTEGQ
hey i'll PM you mu phone number, i prob sell my 5 link to ya. i live up at port macquarie