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What difference will it make

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:18 pm
by LUXon37s
Im looking at putting a cruiser pittman arm on my sas'd hilux as i have poor steering lock,I've measured up a 75 series arm and its 20mm longer

How much better will this be ?(if it fits)

Will it make it more responsive on road ? as in less turns of the wheel to go round the corner

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:33 pm
by ORSM45
in theory yes. longer arm = less turns of the wheel.

what size tie rod end do hilux's have?

how big is the gap in the limiting bolts on the hub? could this be limiting your steering?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:50 pm
by LUXon37s
Im looking to get better handling on road cause at speeds in a corner i turn the wheel 3/4 of a turn to take the corner so the steering lock adjusters are not a problem

Im using x-over double arm steering from chaos so the tie rod is a standard hilux and i got a drag link from them as well that uses 80 series ball joints so fitting it shouldn't be a problem

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:16 am
by slosh
What pitman arm have you been running up til now?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:41 pm
by ORSM45
noifs wrote:Im looking to get better handling on road cause at speeds in a corner i turn the wheel 3/4 of a turn to take the corner so the steering lock adjusters are not a problem

Im using x-over double arm steering from chaos so the tie rod is a standard hilux and i got a drag link from them as well that uses 80 series ball joints so fitting it shouldn't be a problem


i guess it could work then.

someone else could probably verify if the splines are the same. (id say it would all fit)

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:47 pm
by LUXon37s
Im still running the standard ifs hilux pittman arm slosh

thanks 383fj45 could anyone in partiular be able to tell me if it'll fit ?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:03 pm
by RUFF
It will fit. I run a 75 series arm on mine.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:17 pm
by hypo
RUFF wrote:It will fit. I run a 75 series arm on mine.


how much different than a late 80/100 series arm is it ??

longer ?? more step ??

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:24 pm
by RUFF
I think its actually just a little straighter. From memory the 80 has a bend sideways in it. I used this because it was available at the time. Thats the only reason.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:26 pm
by hypo
RUFF wrote:I think its actually just a little straighter. From memory the 80 has a bend sideways in it. I used this because it was available at the time. Thats the only reason.


so u dont know if its longer or not ?? can any1 confirm this it loox longer

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:01 pm
by RUFF
I realy cant remember if it was longer.

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:30 am
by bubs
when i did the cross over on the red 82, i discovered that 75 was the longest of the toyota pitman arms I could find

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:10 pm
by LUXon37s
Just went and picked it up $35

Now how do i get the old one off, I've tryed bashing with a hammer around it on it under it and sprayed it with crc and even bearing pullers and i still can't get it off is the a trick to get it off if so can someone tell me PLEASE ?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:39 pm
by hypo
u need a good solid puller.

put it on and start 2 pull it off, with a fair bit of load on the arm hit the side of the pitman arm with a big hammer, then adjust the puler and hit again and continue until it pops..

first of all loosen the nut :roll: ;)

t

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:46 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
Hypolux will be able to help you with tips on "pullin it" hes been pulling for 2 straight days since he saw his truck in 4wd monthly :finger:

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:57 pm
by LUXon37s
Looks like i'll have to get the box out then cause i cant get the big bearing

pullers onto it so i'll have a go after work tomorrow

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:58 pm
by hypo
bubs wrote:when i did the cross over on the red 82, i discovered that 75 was the longest of the toyota pitman arms I could find


do u know how much longer than an 80 series arm it is ?? if not can u measure the hole centres and post up ??

DIRTY ROCK STAR, u have been pulling ever since u first seen my lux so i guess u win :armsup:

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:11 pm
by LUXon37s
I got a 75 series arm that's 185mm centre to centre and drops 50mm

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:43 pm
by hypo
noifs wrote:I got a 75 series arm that's 185mm centre to centre and drops 50mm


cool thanx ill try and measure my late 80series/100series arm and post up

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:39 pm
by LUXon37s
Fitted the new pittman arm tonite and its made 100% improvement and handles alot better

Its back to 1/4 a turn to get round a corner not 3/4 like before

So thanks for your help and advise

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:14 pm
by bubs
hypo - i didn't end up using it, we used a standard IFS pitman arm

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:31 pm
by hypo
bubs wrote:hypo - i didn't end up using it, we used a standard IFS pitman arm


ok how long is it then ???

NOIFS - wot arm did u use ?? and wot were u running ??

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:02 pm
by LUXon37s
Hypolux - i used a 75 series pittman arm after using the original IFS arm