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Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 amps?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:27 pm
by steve patrol
Gday

Just wrote an factural esay, then it made me log in again and deleted it :bad-words: ...

Big story short... On to my 3rd auto helmet now and im still burning my eyeballs when I go down to 5 - 10 amps with the TIG when they all state there good for 5 amps. What helmet works with a TIG at 5 amps like its supposed to? Anything is great with a MIG but I need it for TIG...

Cheers

Steve

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:26 pm
by awill4x4
Miller Elite Digital will.
Regards Andrew.

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:53 pm
by steve patrol
Sweet as! I was trying to get one of them but the shop i was at talked me into the Mach 4 telling me it was better as they didn't have the Miller DE in stock. How low have you gone down to with it? I take it you have one?

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:45 pm
by ae86levin
Nothing to do with the question in the post.
In future if your session times out while typing a long post use the back button on the browser to go back to the text you spent ages typing. At least then you can copy paste it.

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:55 pm
by awill4x4
steve patrol wrote:Sweet as! I was trying to get one of them but the shop i was at talked me into the Mach 4 telling me it was better as they didn't have the Miller DE in stock. How low have you gone down to with it? I take it you have one?
My Kemppi goes down to 3 amps (the arc is bit inconsistent at 3 and it's better at 5 amps) and My Miller Digital Elite is still able to trigger. You just have to turn the sensitivity a bit higher than usual.
The pics below is fusion welding along a couple of blade edges at 5 amps. At these extremely low amperages I find my eyesight to be the limiting factor and it was a bit of guesswork to see if it was really welding both edges or not. (I missed a little bit on the right hand side)
Sorry about the pics quality, I was trying to make the smallest fusion weld I possibly could and the camera doesn't really pick it up.
Regards Andrew.

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Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:51 am
by Ice
Next you will be doing milk bottle tops :)

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:08 am
by steve patrol
ae86levin wrote:Nothing to do with the question in the post.
In future if your session times out while typing a long post use the back button on the browser to go back to the text you spent ages typing. At least then you can copy paste it.

Yeah I tried doing that but it came up with webpage has expired so had to reload the post page. Will just copy and paste before i submit in futre.
awill4x4 wrote:
steve patrol wrote:Sweet as! I was trying to get one of them but the shop i was at talked me into the Mach 4 telling me it was better as they didn't have the Miller DE in stock. How low have you gone down to with it? I take it you have one?
My Kemppi goes down to 3 amps (the arc is bit inconsistent at 3 and it's better at 5 amps) and My Miller Digital Elite is still able to trigger. You just have to turn the sensitivity a bit higher than usual.
The pics below is fusion welding along a couple of blade edges at 5 amps. At these extremely low amperages I find my eyesight to be the limiting factor and it was a bit of guesswork to see if it was really welding both edges or not. (I missed a little bit on the right hand side)
Sorry about the pics quality, I was trying to make the smallest fusion weld I possibly could and the camera doesn't really pick it up.
Regards Andrew.

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Took me a few looks to work out what they were! There is some finness in that! Yeah I reckon Ill get the Miller DE then. Cheers all for the info!

Steve

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:00 pm
by 80's_delirious
That really is at the cutting edge :shock:

I'm impressed, but then again, I was impressed when I managed to sign my name with a #6 welding tip and silver solder while brazing 0.6mm. copper sheet :P

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:22 am
by brooksy
Miller helmet will do it but I am in the middle of buying a Speedglas 9100XX which is the best for Tig as it has 2 shade variables, light shade 3 & second darkness variation 5,8,9-13. Not cheap at $500+ but I have the original Miller Elite & the Speedglas will be for Tig as I want to get back into it.



brooksy

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:10 pm
by awill4x4
brooksy wrote:Miller helmet will do it but I am in the middle of buying a Speedglas 9100XX which is the best for Tig as it has 2 shade variables, light shade 3 & second darkness variation 5,8,9-13. Not cheap at $500+ but I have the original Miller Elite & the Speedglas will be for Tig as I want to get back into it.
brooksy
Depending on which mode you choose (4 modes available) the Miller Digital Elite will also weld through the 5-13 filter range. The Miller also has X mode which only triggers when it senses the magnetic variation when the arc it triggered, a great feature for outdoor or welding in a bright enviroment.
Horses for courses, my mate uses Speedglas and I use Miller, we've both swapped helmets for comparisons but neither of us will change our preferences.
I don't think you can go wrong with either brand, they are both quality helmets.
Regards Andrew.

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:04 am
by chimpboy
Ice wrote:Next you will be doing milk bottle tops :)
While wearing an auto-darkening jeweller's loupe ;)

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:22 pm
by CRUZAAMAD
ive got the speedglass adflo unit with flip up grind visor, bloody fantastic!!
just got to keep the forklift away from me as it triggers the auto lense.
only use it for tig, as too dear for general boily work, cigweld hidelrock my choice in the flip tops, just have to super glue the damn pivot pins in the lens cover!!

Re: Auto darken helmet that actually works with a TIG at 5 a

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:51 am
by georgey
yeha i got the miller,think theyre around $450.but got it from railcorp when i worked there so not 100%
theyre good units