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Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:33 pm
by Pennyponting
Hi all, my name is Joel, iv got a 1999 4.2diesel GU wagon with 195,000km which i have had for 6years. it has been a great car, never missed a beat, and i have set it up just how i like.
But i am going around Australia again in March, and i wanted it to be reliable, so i started looking at upgrading to a newer motor, i found a 3.0L out of a 2001 patrol with only 91,000km, it was really cheap, and came with the wiring loom and gearbox etc. so i have bought it and started the upgrade. i cant wait to see how it goes. its supposed to have more power than the old 4.2.
My mechanic is charging me enough. . . . struth! nearly $9,000 in labor to fit a motor and gearbox. is this normal? on a positive note he has offered to knock $1,000 off the price of the upgrade, and buy my old motor and gearbox off me. he also says my diff cogs will need to change. but i dont want to change the diffs because iv already got a lokker fitted. . . . . . so i have a few issues.
i would like to know what you guys think, especially those who have upgraded your motor like me, particularly the power. . . . cant wait to drive it.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:07 pm
by nissannewby
Would have left it 4.2 more reliable and your being overcharged for an engine swap
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:11 pm
by Northside 4x4
I really hope this is a stir up?
The 3L is probably patrol owners worst nightmare. Reliability of this is 1/10th of any TD42.
Cost of getting the TD42 to go 100% better than any 3L would be about 8-10K (which would be considerably less than what it will cost for your planned upgrade)
Add a turbo and intake manifold upgrade and you will get around 80-90% more power and torque on 10-11psi.
Add a good intercooler and that figure will be up at least another 30%, lifting the boost to 13-14psi.
All well within safety margins on a td42.
Turbo $5K, Intercooling $3.5K both as installed prices.
Best thing is it will do 500-600K km's before it kicks the bucket, with the 3L some people are lucky to break the 100K km mark before needing a rebuild.
The absolute worst part of all this is the designated 'Hand Grenade' years for the ZD30 are 2001 and 2002.
The TD42 your sitting on now would be worth 6-8K as a complete engine to the right buyer...!
I would urge you to sell that zd30 off asap and actually do your 4.2 up if your chasing a torque monster and reliability.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:20 pm
by nissannewby
highly agree with northside the only one getting a good deal here is your mechanic.the td42 are a proven motor and will get you around aus no worries at all
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:00 pm
by Jimbo
Yeah i'm guessing its a joke.
I will give you $1500 for the engine!
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:40 am
by vanbox
Its not April 1.....But school is out!
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:30 pm
by GUtripper
LOL good one.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:34 am
by starky
wow that's like that's like trading in jessica alba for kerry-anne kennerly.
if this is a serious post dude i would be slapping your mechanic for taking advantage of you,
any one worth their salt would tell you that you are making a huge mistake!!!!!
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:37 am
by Dirtydiseasal
I wasn't even going to look at this thread as I thought I knew exactly what it would be about from the subject line! Never judge a book.......
What a pi ss take!
Someone was very bored and highly imaginative...
Kudos for making us chuckle..
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:03 pm
by CRUZAAMAD
it sounds all true.
poor fella.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:32 pm
by money_killer
surely the OP is not being seriously ??? :O
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:15 am
by mkpatrol
They say a fool and his money are easily parted. I might take up the spanners again & move to Vic
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:02 pm
by CRUZAAMAD
hmm his profile says his a michanic...........
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:43 pm
by Clanky
Nice GU TD42 with reasonable kms going for $20 - $25K
Nice 3.0 same year and engine still running $10 - 12K
Pay a rip off mech $9k for the worst ever engine swap in a Patrol
Sell a TD42 and gearbox for $1K
One Patrol devalued quicker than a Zimbabwe dollar!
Hmmm, I have a slightly used Harbour Bridge for sale. But wait there's more - Ring now and I will throw in the Opera House for
Just $1 extra!!!
Oh And i will give you $2000 for both 4.2 engine and gearbox...
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:49 pm
by Pennyponting
you boys had fun with this..... yer, i was bored.
still driving my 99gu. 430,000km.
Re: Patrol Engine upgrade.
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:42 am
by Banzy
Pennyponting wrote:you boys had fun with this..... yer, i was bored.
still driving my 99gu. 430,000km.
Missed this when it was posted.
Nice
(2000 GU 4.2, 300,000ks)