Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Toying with the idea of adding one of these to the tipper. Or a cheaper manual one.

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Discuss.

we use HIAB brand ones on our work utes and canter, the one on the canter can lift a tonne or two and both can be can be quite handy. If funding is an issue you could make your own upside down L shape frame and use an ATV winch and pulleys?

i wouldnt be adding it to your tipping tray, your tray would severely twist, as its only fixed by the rear pivot points, UNLESS it has a sub frame setup and tray is mounted to that.
But either way i wouldnt put one on.
no worries if it was a normal tray, you just stiffen up underneath where the crane is actually mounted.
boily by trade, cut my teeth doing tray bodies and a few tippers.

What about if there was a support leg that could swing down prior to it being used?

toaddog wrote:What about if there was a support leg that could swing down prior to it being used?

Think about the twist loading on the pivot points on your tipping tray.

Sub frame and mount it behind the cab in front of the tipping assembly... like a hiab is fitted normally (with sub frame)

Could you adapt an engine crane to work on a tray??
Obviously, some mods would need to be done to make it work properly, but if you buy and engine crane, alot of the guesswork is done.

DUDELUX wrote:Could you adapt an engine crane to work on a tray??
Obviously, some mods would need to be done to make it work properly, but if you buy and engine crane, alot of the guesswork is done.

yeh my mate did this, but the length of it at full extension could be a bit longer.

one thing to watch is weight. weight of tipper plus crane may mean you can't legally carry any loads.
ie not much point if ute load is 1000kg and the tipper and crane weigh 500kg+
better off to buy a truck.

no twist load on the hinge, thats the strongest point on the tray mounting.
not even a drop down leg would help toadog.
tip your tray up ar far as it will go, try and rock the front of the tray when its in fully tipped mode, thats the flex you need to worry about.
ice is right on the other point, mount seperately.

all tippers flex at full height, why the hinges pins are made soo thick.
25 to 30mm for a ute tray is heaps to handle the twist.

thought of a fold up tailgate loader, like you see on ute trays one tonners i mean.
be better idea.

CRUZAAMAD wrote:no twist load on the hinge, thats the strongest point on the tray mounting.
not even a drop down leg would help toadog.
tip your tray up ar far as it will go, try and rock the front of the tray when its in fully tipped mode, thats the flex you need to worry about.
ice is right on the other point, mount seperately.

all tippers flex at full height, why the hinges pins are made soo thick.
25 to 30mm for a ute tray is heaps to handle the twist.

thought of a fold up tailgate loader, like you see on ute trays one tonners i mean.
be better idea.

The point is, the twist load is on those pins when using the crane... if it flexes when its up it flexes the same when its down...

Ice wrote:

toaddog wrote:What about if there was a support leg that could swing down prior to it being used?

Think about the twist loading on the pivot points on your tipping tray.

Sub frame and mount it behind the cab in front of the tipping assembly... like a hiab is fitted normally (with sub frame)

I agree, it would need to be mounted to the chassis, not to anything that tips. I don't think it would be smart to mount it to the tray.

What sort of stuff would you be using it for?

I brought a small hand operated 1, years ago, I got it at a clearance sale cheap & thought it would be handy.
Never used it, It's just rusting away

Hamo

What about reinforcing the rear of the tip tray and fitting the crane at the back(over the hinge pins) instead of against the headboard. Not ideal for loadspace but at least the crane will have a solid footing.

want33s wrote:What about reinforcing the rear of the tip tray and fitting the crane at the back(over the hinge pins) instead of against the headboard. Not ideal for loadspace but at least the crane will have a solid footing.

It might make tipping stuff out a bit crap though.

chimpboy wrote:

want33s wrote:What about reinforcing the rear of the tip tray and fitting the crane at the back(over the hinge pins) instead of against the headboard. Not ideal for loadspace but at least the crane will have a solid footing.

It might make tipping stuff out a bit crap though.

Rolf!

chimpboy wrote:

want33s wrote:What about reinforcing the rear of the tip tray and fitting the crane at the back(over the hinge pins) instead of against the headboard. Not ideal for loadspace but at least the crane will have a solid footing.

It might make tipping stuff out a bit crap though.

Wouldn't common sense dictate it be on the corner of the tray not in the middle. A hungry board can be built around the crane mount and dirt/whatever can still be tipped out normally.

want33s wrote:

chimpboy wrote:

want33s wrote:What about reinforcing the rear of the tip tray and fitting the crane at the back(over the hinge pins) instead of against the headboard. Not ideal for loadspace but at least the crane will have a solid footing.

It might make tipping stuff out a bit crap though.

Wouldn't common sense dictate it be on the corner of the tray not in the middle. A hungry board can be built around the crane mount and dirt/whatever can still be tipped out normally.

When lifting from behind the vehicle, the crane would attempt to tip the tray which might make keeping stuff in the tray a bit crap.