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Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:54 am
by buschmaster
Wat is the maximum tire size for an Nissan Patrol GU(y61)

When you have standard axles and cv,s ?

And when you have caloffroad axles and cv,s ?


Becouse i want the biggest tire size possible without breaking cv,s and axles..

Saw those 11.00 wide 44 inch high military tires :shock:

Or is there a stronger brand for beefing up GU axles ?(red something about rvc performance ?)

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:12 pm
by toughnut
How long is a piece of string? How much money do you want to spend? How do you drive? Are you running lockers or hydro steer??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/search.php

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:47 am
by gudge
:popcorn: this will be good

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:15 pm
by ste
32inch

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:29 pm
by jemmos
What you gunna use it 4? Comp truck? Daily driver, rock buggy, drag car, drift car, tourer, towing?

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:47 pm
by toughnut
Looks like another one hit wonder stirring the pot.

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:39 pm
by JoseM
There's a guy up in Russia with 42" boggers and a set of Cal's on a GQ. I run 38.5" boggers on Cals and could easily go to 42", just not interested.
On standard I wouldn't go past 37". I did for a while without an issue

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:40 am
by buschmaster
Oke thanks ! gq has weaker axles to GU so with gu and caloffroad i can break them driving offroad even if i try ?

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:17 pm
by JoseM
buschmaster wrote:Oke thanks ! gq has weaker axles to GU so with gu and caloffroad i can break them driving offroad even if i try ?
Well, Im sure that if you try hard enough you'll probably get there :lol:, since everything can be broken, but I driven my GU hard :shock: and so far so good, so I would say to you slam on those 37" and when they break replace them with Cals. Yould be surprised how strong your CV's & axle are...
After you do that youre weak link will become the free wheeling hubs, but for that Superior has the medicine...

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:06 pm
by BundyRumandCoke
Normal rules dont apply for this question. The OP is in Holland, same question has been posed in a UK Nissan forum.

http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=67417" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Right now i have an 70 hp toyota 2l in a lj70

But im orientating to build a monster y61 with v8 turbo diesel and biggest possible tires.(and road legal in Holland)

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:54 am
by buschmaster
Alright thanks Josem !!! :D

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:43 am
by toughnut
BundyRumandCoke wrote:Normal rules dont apply for this question. The OP is in Holland, same question has been posed in a UK Nissan forum.
Well that is different.

As far as the tyres go. It really does depend on how you drive. I've seen people break CalOffroad CVs with only 36 inch tyres because they didn't use their truck properly. But then I've seen other people like myself that have used factory CVs in competition for over 2 years on 36 inch tyres or larger and haven't broken anything becuase they use their trucks properly.

So I'd say just fit the tyres you want and have the spare CVs ready to go if you break the ones you have. ;)

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:18 am
by buschmaster
Okey but what should i undertand by "properly" ?becouse the fun for me is to bang your rig totaly mad like its a unbreakable tank :shock: :cool: ? :popcorn:

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:42 am
by toughnut
Well its not an unbreakable tank. If you are using diff lockers then you need to use them properly. The rear locker isn't really a problem but the front locker if not engaged at the right time or used when it shouldn't be then you will break things. If you engage your front locker when you have your steering at more than half lock and moving then you have a good chance at breaking something. Engage your locker before you get to the obstacle. If you're in mud then that is not too much worry but if you are on rocks or other high grip surfaces then you have a much higher chance of breaking things. Try to line yourself up with the obstacle and then engage your lockers and go for it.

Basically just prepare your truck for the obstacle before you get to it and you should be fine.

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:33 am
by JoseM
buschmaster wrote:Okey but what should i undertand by "properly" ?becouse the fun for me is to bang your rig totaly mad like its a unbreakable tank :shock: :cool: ? :popcorn:
:lol: No worries mate, just slap'em on (your tires) and enjoy :armsup: Just have your Cal's as replacements, or be chicken like me :oops: and put them on (the Cals) and forget about it ;)

Just remember what I told you about the free wheeling hubs, those WILL break :bad-words: So get a set from Superior and you're done :cool:

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:32 pm
by buschmaster
OK very helpful replys thanks VERY much ! :)

Yes thats the same i would do,place the cals an keep the standards as spare ;)

But if you replace the freewheelhubs with superior ones what is the next weak link then ? (becouse i like to have the weakest link at a part thats not too expensive... :? :D

Yes Josem i understand what ure saying,thats also what im going to do; just keep the front and rear difflockers unlockt and when i get stuck and need them use them with care :snipersmile: :armsup:

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:22 pm
by toughnut
One thing that really weakens a free wheel hub is if you don't have the joined washers on them. You know the flat bar that joins two of the hex bolts together? You can get a complete ring that you use in place of these and it makes your hub a fair bit stronger just by doing that.

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:27 pm
by JoseM
Just so that we look at things in perspective. The Nissan manual hubs housing, and what takes most of the beating, is made of a very soft aluminum. That's why they break when something like an ARB and a bigger tire are used. Simply not made for that...
As far as the infamous weak link, I assure you that neither your r&p's, drive shaft, nor u-joints will give out on you if mantained propperly.
Patrol is a good reliable, strong and -- in my opinion -- over built truck; then again, if given the right conditions, anything can and will break, but still I would not worry about "weak links" -- been there, done that...

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:46 am
by turps
Pretty sure superior where saying even with Cals CV's once you fit their hub. The CV or axle will still be the weak link. It will just take longer to smash

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:58 am
by JoseM
turps wrote:Pretty sure superior where saying even with Cals CV's once you fit their hub. The CV or axle will still be the weak link. It will just take longer to smash
It always is, my friend, it always is...

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:15 am
by turps
JoseM wrote:
turps wrote:Pretty sure superior where saying even with Cals CV's once you fit their hub. The CV or axle will still be the weak link. It will just take longer to smash
It always is, my friend, it always is...
I actually dont mind smashing hubs there real easy to replace.
Been awhile since I broke a CV. So I think I will just keep having a spare.

Re: Max Tire Size Patrol GU(y61)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:29 am
by JoseM
turps wrote:
JoseM wrote:
turps wrote:Pretty sure superior where saying even with Cals CV's once you fit their hub. The CV or axle will still be the weak link. It will just take longer to smash
It always is, my friend, it always is...
I actually dont mind smashing hubs there real easy to replace.
Been awhile since I broke a CV. So I think I will just keep having a spare.
True. To that all I can say is "whatever works". I have the Superior hubs, with CalĀ“s front end and so far so good...