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4L60-E manualising
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:40 pm
by gudge
Looking to put an auto in the Patrol, it's running a 304 v8 so obviously I've started looking at 4L60-E 's. question is can the electronic version be easily converted to full manual and not need any computer input.
As I'm led to believe the valve body is controlled by solinoids so could these just be sent signals from the shifter and do it that way
Or am I better of just finding a not electronic version ( pre 93 I think ?) and putting a manualised valve body in.
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:12 pm
by Clanky
Apparently so according to these links
http://www.automatictransmission.com.au ... ewsId=8611" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.automatictransmission.com.au ... wsId=26882" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good website and you can ask questions via email
http://www.automatictransmission.com.au/askorto.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:02 pm
by gudge
Cheers for that. Good website and have sent them an Email, will let yas know how I go.
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:56 pm
by BowTieGQ
Do you already have a 4L60? If not, get an early T700. Same thing but no electronics. Makes easier conversion and easier to manualise. And cheaper too of course.
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:03 pm
by gudge
BowTieGQ wrote:Do you already have a 4L60? If not, get an early T700. Same thing but no electronics. Makes easier conversion and easier to manualise. And cheaper too of course.
No I don't have one personally, but a 96 statesman came up with a 5L and a 4L60E in it running and thought it wouldn't Hurt to score an auto along with a spare motor.
But I'm thinking not, either buy a th700 or get a good one built. Save stuffing around with the wiring.
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:11 pm
by MEGATROL
gudge that vn wagon from the island should have the t700 in it just go get it and rebuild it
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:13 pm
by gudge
V6. Different bolt pattern
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:01 pm
by Modified Toy
I own an auto shop feel free to ask questions , you can manualise the 4l60e just as easy as a 700r4 you just need a transgo shift kit 4 l60e-3 this replaces the pressure control solenoid with a modulator ( for line pressure control) also run a gate shifter these are better for offload than b and m etc and the selector cable is heavy duty,with afew mods to the box you should be right.
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:16 pm
by Tiny
Modified Toy wrote:I own an auto shop feel free to ask questions , you can manualise the 4l60e just as easy as a 700r4 you just need a transgo shift kit 4 l60e-3 this replaces the pressure control solenoid with a modulator ( for line pressure control) also run a gate shifter these are better for offload than b and m etc and the selector cable is heavy duty,with afew mods to the box you should be right.
Sorry in advance for the hijack but since your offering advice......... I have manualised t400 with a ratchet shifter, after a short amount of use after it stopped picking up gears, I had bigger issues to sort before this it I'm close to drive train, shifter was new, is it possible or common for shifters to go out of adjustment ie cable stretching? Is it likely the shift kit is the issue or do you think I have bigger issues?
Ta
Tiny
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:25 pm
by Modified Toy
A few things you can check-
1.Check the oil level when running it should be basically at the top of the pan rail when running if not maybe you have wrong dipstick? what does the oil smell like?burnt etc, if unsure overfill a bit and see what happens?
2. Remove one of the oil cooler lines start up vehicle and see if you have flow (this is a easy way to see if the pump is working) Maybe pump got jammed when fitting box did you put the Convertor in the box when fitting?
3. Maybe you had the shifter incorectly adjusted,this is the easyiest way to burn the box up, you should set the shifter up in the D position, so Trans in D and Shifter in D then adjust cable to suit.
If you have no drive or reverse and oil level is ok it will most likly be something major.
Russell
Re: 4L60-E manualising
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:17 am
by Tiny
Modified Toy wrote:A few things you can check-
1.Check the oil level when running it should be basically at the top of the pan rail when running if not maybe you have wrong dipstick? what does the oil smell like?burnt etc, if unsure overfill a bit and see what happens?
2. Remove one of the oil cooler lines start up vehicle and see if you have flow (this is a easy way to see if the pump is working) Maybe pump got jammed when fitting box did you put the Convertor in the box when fitting?
3. Maybe you had the shifter incorectly adjusted,this is the easyiest way to burn the box up, you should set the shifter up in the D position, so Trans in D and Shifter in D then adjust cable to suit.
If you have no drive or reverse and oil level is ok it will most likly be something major.
Russell
Hmmmmm might be bad then, I had box manualized and shifter fitted by an auto shop, I had previously fitted the auto myself which was purchased as "fully reco'ed" and a brand new low stall 6 bolt converter fitted as its behind a chev oiler