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I am currently running a gt 2860 with a .64 hot side turbo on my 4.2 ITD 2004 Patrol ute. I want to no if it is worth high flowing my turbo or not and pricing if any body knows.
Cheers tim

depends on your power target, ig you're looking for a lot the 2860 is the wrong way to go.

I just want a bit more then what i have now. It is putting out 140hp at the wheels, would like to get round the 170 maybe 180 mark. I just don't wanna go a bigger turbo and end up with a heap of lag. Do you think this is achievable?

You'll need a new turbo ballbearing turbos are not rebuildable well Garret only rebalance them when they feel like it.

tye1986 wrote:You'll need a new turbo ballbearing turbos are not rebuildable well Garret only rebalance them when they feel like it.

What sort of turbo would you recommend for what i want then?

I run a united fuel td05 20g great turbo for Wat your wanting an 18g or 16g would be good . If your looking at getting pump mods and a Turbo give diesel central in rocky a ring. Best diesel performance shop in qld. They also sell united fuel turbos..

You should be able to make that hp with the turbo you have.
You won't get much more than 170-180hp from the stock pump anyway.

What sort of boost am i going to need with this turbo to get that tho i am already running 15psi?

Not only are you going to need more than 15lbs you will need more fuel as well.

18-20psi.
But you will need (or get someone) to have a play with the pump.
130 odd rwkw is acheivable with the 2860rs and a well setup pump.

so could you get that much power out of a natural engine (running more than 14psi) or will it destroy pistons/rings?

tye1986 has done it so has MikeH, both with alot more boost too.
It depends on how hard you lean on it though.

hey tye1986

when does your td05 with the 20g wheel start to make some decent boost?
i've got a united fuel td05 with 16g on it and was thinking if i ever go over 18-20psi i should put a bigger compressor on it.

Makes full boost before 2grand 32psi.

I have a standard HT18 on my GQ. 3" exhaust and a built GQ pump making a dyno'd 139 rwhp. The pump was built by swaffie and he informs me it will do 170rwhp with the right turbo. 3071.

far out tye1986 that's ok how advanced is your pump and can you see though the smoke out the back.

you must struggle hard to get traction in the wet

So the td05 with the 20g wheel is the bigger one what sort of comparison to what i have now? and is it a bush or ball bearing turbo?

I have a 14mmsafari plunger Swaffie special pump it runs pretty clean.

They are a journal bearing turbo. There similar size to a 3071. Ufi modify them quite a bit to get them to work this well.

How much would this sort of kit cost to get done roughly?

Do you mean pump an turbo?. you will have to upgrade ur intercooler to wouldn't expect change from 6k if you do the work yourself (fitting everything).

forkcy wrote:you must struggle hard to get traction in the wet

Mudders make a real loud howling noise on dry road as the tread blocks walk when you floor it at 70kph in third. It sounds like the diff pinion bearings are letting go. The car leaned inward on right hand corners if you drove it hard. Currently its in bits, going for more with a properly built turbo engine.

tye1986 wrote:Do you mean pump an turbo?. you will have to upgrade ur intercooler to wouldn't expect change from 6k if you do the work yourself (fitting everything).

Yeah something like what you have? Does your truck still have plenty of torque down low tho? And what power is your truckactually making

Old truck standard silver top motor made 195rwkw with a badly slipping clutch an yes they do have plenty of torque. My new car im hoping for over 200.

Im trialing a plasma man water to air cooler as well will have results shortly.

I will give MTQ a call is that diesel central? and see what they reckon.

diesel central is at gracemere it is not mtq

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little timmy wrote:I will give MTQ a call is that diesel central? and see what they reckon.

No, Diesel Central in Gracemere as stated before , swaff is putting together some really nice combos

MAtt

tye1986 wrote:Old truck standard silver top motor made 195rwkw with a badly slipping clutch an yes they do have plenty of torque. My new car im hoping for over 200.

Im trialing a plasma man water to air cooler as well will have results shortly.

Hi, just wonder if you know, roughly, how many NM of torque at the flywheel, your 200Rwkw truck has, or your old truck? , just looked at the power/torque figures on the newest 4.2TDI Touareg and it`s 335hp and 800nm

interesting to follow you guys and I am impressed by the power these TD42 engines puts out

vn15 wrote:

tye1986 wrote:Old truck standard silver top motor made 195rwkw with a badly slipping clutch an yes they do have plenty of torque. My new car im hoping for over 200.

Im trialing a plasma man water to air cooler as well will have results shortly.

Hi, just wonder if you know, roughly, how many NM of torque at the flywheel, your 200Rwkw truck has, or your old truck? , just looked at the power/torque figures on the newest 4.2TDI Touareg and it`s 335hp and 800nm

interesting to follow you guys and I am impressed by the power these TD42 engines puts out

Most of these combos that the experienced tuners are putting together are making between 750- 810Nm of torque at between 2000-2300.

Most will over accelerate rollers on power runs, but when measured at steady state load up numbers and back calculated thats what they make.

HAving seen first hand cranks that have had the rear of them twisted off we may be getting to the point of torsional strength in the crank and there are a few builds going together with different cranks.

MAtt

thanks for answering

pretty impressive figures from an old school engine!!