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Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:51 pm
by CC
Hello all,

I just recently acquired a nice FJ40 chassis with a diesel motor on it and I would like to find out what motor it is. I have the
engine number and some other numbers but I cannot find what motor it is so I can figure out what to do next with the motor
if it's worth rebuilding or not.

Maybe someone can point me to the right direction.

Thank you

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:04 pm
by RockyF75
what does the engine number start with?

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:48 pm
by CC
On the bottom back left side block it comes up with H75xxx and on the right side of the block there's two different numbers 47015 and a big 23 on top of 90713.

Thank you

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:59 pm
by RockyF75
might want to wait for someone else to confirm, but I would guess that as it starts with H, it's a "H" engine. 3.6L I think?

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:03 pm
by CC
Alright, I was told it was a 4.2ltr 6cyc diesel. But I know the FJ/BJs didn't have 4.2ltr only 4.0 and below. I hope to hear something about this soon.

Thank you

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:25 pm
by RockyF75
Nah. They didn't bring out a 4.2 diesel till 70 series.

If it's the original engine, it's more than likely a H. Unless its a 47 not a 40?

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:55 pm
by CC
This is why I want to know if it was an original motor not a different one. I'll just have to wait and hope someone from OL can shed a light on this! Nah my chassis is definitely a FJ40.

Thank you

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:23 pm
by hj 45
Got a pic? Will be easy to tell then. The 3.6 litre H motor has the oil filter on the passenger side, paper cartridge in a steel canister, absolute MONGREL to reinstall the canister without pinching the o ring as it's on a crappy angle. I got a adaptor to change the filter to a Z416 spin on type. 2H has the oil filter on the driver's side, spin on filter, Ryco's model number is X161X I think. Of course if there's the 4 cylinder B or 3B, the above doesn't apply. :D

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:39 pm
by Ricko
Photos will reveal all...

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:40 pm
by RED60
Ricko wrote:Photos will reveal all...
Absolutely... or count the injecter lines or spark plugs.... anything would be better than whats been currently described....

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:47 am
by CC
Okay... I'll have to take a photo of it. It has no heads, just the block/pistons with few things. I'll take one tomorrow and upload it here.

Thank you

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:40 am
by mkpatrol
If its an FJ40 it should be a petrol engine unless it has been retroed.

Have another look at the chassis number: FJ, petrol, HJ 6 cylinder diesel, BJ 4 cylinder diesel (as I remember it)

Also the engine number will have the engine prefix in it. H for the early 6 cylinder, B for the 4 cylinder (3B, 3BT ect) & 2H from 1984.

From memory, the 40's did not ever have the 6 cylinder diesel from factory, only the 4.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:50 am
by mkpatrol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser_(J40" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

The Wiki article is pretty generic & not Auss pecific so when I talk about the 40 & the diesel I mean OZ only.

On the subject of the F sereis engine, I had a 73 model with a F155 engine in it. Man it used to go well, I reckon it was way better than any 2F I have ever driven & was pretty good on fuel, no more than my VH Commodore 6 cylinder was. Most 2F engines are terrible on fuel & felt odd, like they were strngled.

Its a bit like when Ford moved to Crossflow engines, they were abysmal until the XE with the alloy head, larger ports & Weber carby. They should have stuck with the 2V head, a much better effort. The only thing is the 2F stayed abysmal, it never really had any updates until the end.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:21 am
by De-lux
a 2H is a 4.2L isn't it?!?

**EDIT** I just realised a 2H is a 4.0L

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Lan ... 29#Engines" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:52 pm
by CC
Here are some photos! I'm starting to think this motor is possible just H motor.

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Thank you

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:57 pm
by SCANAS
I've never seen a h before but that's not a 2H or a 1HZ so I think it must be a H being 6 cyl and diesel.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:09 pm
by Ricko
Not sure, my guess is H motor.

Or a great boat anchor...

You sure it's on a SWB chassis? I'm tipping you've got a ute chassis.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:11 pm
by CC
I'll find the chassis number and I'll see if I can scrub down the block and see what else comes up.

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:17 pm
by mkpatrol
Ricko wrote:Not sure, my guess is H motor.

Or a great boat anchor...

You sure it's on a SWB chassis? I'm tipping you've got a ute chassis.

This, I bet its a HJ45. There is not enugh on that engine to identify it. Do you have the rocker cover? The rocker cover on the H is just a rectangular shape with a flat tom where the 2H was bulgy on top.

H:
http://forums.offipalsta.com/picture.ph ... reid=66793

2H:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachment.php? ... 1195045035

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:24 pm
by hj 45
Definitely a H donk, the oil filter is the giveaway. Plus the fuel filter being a cartridge in the canister too, the 2H fuel filter is a small spin on. Not that it's much good for anything now. Thrrrrrrrrrroooooowwww it out.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:24 pm
by CC
It's definitely a FJ40 - 281xxx as it says on the chassis. The motor came with the chassis like it is, but though looking at the photos(post above me) it does look like a H motor. Definitely a boat anchor, not worth wasting my time/money rebuilding those.

CC

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:27 pm
by mkpatrol
CC wrote:It's definitely a FJ40 - 281xxx as it says on the chassis. The motor came with the chassis like it is, but though looking at the photos(post above me) it does look like a H motor. Definitely a boat anchor, not worth wasting my time/money rebuilding those.

CC

Or the 2H, I would skip them both & go for a 1HZ or the turbo versions of the same era. The only good thing about a 2h is the engine braking, apart form that the 1HZ's are much better effort.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:32 pm
by CC
I was thinking of going 12H-T - I want to keep it diesel and 6cyl not a v8 or petrol.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:53 pm
by Shadow
fj40 never came with a H? only a B(early) and 3B(later)

FJ45 and FJ47(ute and troopy) came with H and 2H.

so if that is a factory fit engine, id say its a FJ45 chassis.???

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:34 pm
by hj 45
Never know, someone might have chucked the original petrol and installed the H. BTW, no such thing as a FJ 47.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:32 am
by Narrowscopeofreality
Shadow wrote:fj40 never came with a H? only a B(early) and 3B(later)

FJ45 and FJ47(ute and troopy) came with H and 2H.

so if that is a factory fit engine, id say its a FJ45 chassis.???
Pretty much all of this is wrong...sorry mate :D :lol:

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:15 am
by mkpatrol
hj 45 wrote: BTW, no such thing as a FJ 47.

What, petrol Troopy? I have a Toota workshop manual, I will check.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:01 pm
by hj 45
mkpatrol wrote:
hj 45 wrote: BTW, no such thing as a FJ 47.

What, petrol Troopy? I have a Toota workshop manual, I will check.
Petrol engined 40s were called the FJ 40 or FJ 45, regardless of whether the F or 2F engine is installed. Diesels were the BJ 40 with 3 litre B motor, BJ 42 with the 3B, HJ 45 has the H, while the HJ 47 has the 2H. Other markets got the mid wheelbase 43 and 44, we didn't.

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:39 pm
by Shadow
Narrowscopeofreality wrote:
Shadow wrote:fj40 never came with a H? only a B(early) and 3B(later)

FJ45 and FJ47(ute and troopy) came with H and 2H.

so if that is a factory fit engine, id say its a FJ45 chassis.???
Pretty much all of this is wrong...sorry mate :D :lol:

yeh i call them all FJ's ^_^

but what i meant was

BJ40 never came with a H? only a B(early) and 3B(later) BJ42

HJ45 and HJ47(ute and troopy) came with H and 2H.

so if that is a factory fit engine, id say its a HJ45 chassis.???

Re: Identifying a Toyota diesel motor in FJ40

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:16 pm
by MADSHORT
lol lol lol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol:
so mant experts here with no idea
just cracks me up
:smilecolros: