Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey all, quick intro, I'm new to the forum. The names Mic, I hail from north of Brissie & own a 97' widetrack Red/Silver standard other than UHF and nodding dashboard dog. I'm looking at ways to improve (read remove) the front suspension, lift the bugger up and lock her up. I intend to go all the way first time rather than little stages, redoin things over & over. I've got a mate with a Lux' whose gone through 5 suspension setups in 4 years!! I'm more than familiar with the age old springover but that's a bit to extreme for my purposes.
What bout a Rocky front end? Wouldn't it be a match for track etc?? Anyone thought of this? Can anyone think of a way to get a live axle coil setup up front, that'd be bloody fantastic for the really ruff stuff! Tricky questions I know but I've seen plenty of ideas with potential out there, it'd be great to get a bit of collabrative brainstorming happenin. Send in your ideas dudes, I'm lookin forward to hearing them.
Cheers, Mic

G'Day matey! I've fully researched front axle swaps. Forget the rocky, although the track width is identical, the R&P ratio is WAAAY off (3 something as opposed to Feroza's 5.29). Your only choice is toyota axles really. And you'll need 5.71 R&Ps for bigger tyres.

If you can do coils (cost, tricky to setup without too much knowledge etc) then that is most definetly the way to go on the front at least. The Feroza frame gets narrower towards the front so if you go springs you end up with a tricky situation. A guy in the US solved this by using very wide shackles to line up with the springs in the rear. All the braketry is going to have to be totally custom. You also have to remove a cross member in the rear if you go spring as the driveshaft will hit it. May..may not be a strenght issue then, most likely you'll have to put a custom one in....

It's a lot of work, and for the cost I coudl buy myself a zook and totally build it....which I'm looking at doing

mj wrote: Hey all, quick intro, I'm new to the forum. The names Mic, I hail from north of Brissie & own a 97' widetrack Red/Silver standard other than UHF and nodding dashboard dog. I'm looking at ways to improve (read remove) the front suspension, lift the bugger up and lock her up. I intend to go all the way first time rather than little stages, redoin things over & over. I've got a mate with a Lux' whose gone through 5 suspension setups in 4 years!! I'm more than familiar with the age old springover but that's a bit to extreme for my purposes.
What bout a Rocky front end? Wouldn't it be a match for track etc?? Anyone thought of this? Can anyone think of a way to get a live axle coil setup up front, that'd be bloody fantastic for the really ruff stuff! Tricky questions I know but I've seen plenty of ideas with potential out there, it'd be great to get a bit of collabrative brainstorming happenin. Send in your ideas dudes, I'm lookin forward to hearing them.
Cheers, Mic

Well......first of all.........welcome to the Forum

Solid front axled Feroza's
Well, there are 2 of them in the World.......one in the USA and one here in Australia (mine)

I can't tell you about Kent's but mine............

I blew my front diff and thought......well I can spend $2K on a OE front diff or I can spend a bit more and make the Feroza a real 4WD !!
I wanted coil front and rear end and was contemplating using Toyota Bundera Diffs.......but some Hilux diffs (and entire running gear) became available for the right price (cheap).......so in they went !!
I wanted to go for something that airlockers were available for which is why I didn't consider dropping a Rocky diff into the front, also the availability of spares if anything broke was an issue........Rockies aren't that plentiful, but Hiluxes are !!!

Springover too extreme...........I think not.........it just allows you to fit bigger tyres easier !!

It all depends on how far you want to take it...........you can do anything WITH anything........it just takes money !!!!

It's great to see another Feroza online.
Good luck with whatever youo chose to do to yours, but I can highly recommend the conversion I've done to mine.

Cheers

Thanks for the warm welcome guys. This IFS thing really is a prick isn't it? The hilux axle swap is looking like the path to follow hey. I've got a mate of a mate who works for Diff Lapping, the only place in Queensland who actually rebuild diffs, and he reckons he might be able to swap in Lux' axles for me at the right price (ie cheap). Besty, how's the insurance on your little beast? That could be a major issue for me, I'm only 21 and I've lost my license before (140 in a 50 zone, oops ). There's other probs to, like whether springovers are actually legal in Queensland! I'm gonna have a chat with my mates mate and I'll let you guys know the result.
There's only two easy answers from what I can see. The first is like Murray says, buy a Zook and tuff it up with that money, sensible I suppose, I'm seriously thinkin along those lines as well. The second solution is to buy Bestys car I spose, how much mate
Later Guys, Mic

Spring over is only allowed in QLD if it's from the factory like that...so you won't be allowed a SPOA Feroza in QLD.

mj wrote:Thanks for the warm welcome guys. This IFS thing really is a prick isn't it? The hilux axle swap is looking like the path to follow hey. I've got a mate of a mate who works for Diff Lapping, the only place in Queensland who actually rebuild diffs, and he reckons he might be able to swap in Lux' axles for me at the right price (ie cheap). Besty, how's the insurance on your little beast? That could be a major issue for me, I'm only 21 and I've lost my license before (140 in a 50 zone, oops ). There's other probs to, like whether springovers are actually legal in Queensland! I'm gonna have a chat with my mates mate and I'll let you guys know the result.
There's only two easy answers from what I can see. The first is like Murray says, buy a Zook and tuff it up with that money, sensible I suppose, I'm seriously thinkin along those lines as well. The second solution is to buy Bestys car I spose, how much mate
Later Guys, Mic

Insurance.............Hmmmmmm...............no problems

I take it you weren't caught doing 140kph in your Feroza I wouldn't want to take mine past 120kph - too scarey

Mines Engineered for standard Hilux suspension (ie: leafover) therefore legal :wink: Talk to an Engineer about the possibilities of doing a SPOA, they may be able to get it engineered in QLD, or get coils instead of leaves 8)

Buy my Baby...........I DON'T THINK SO