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80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:06 am
by gloves
good day, iv been looking for a link or a little info regarding steering , im in the middle of a project ,its a 3litre diesel 4runner and looking at putting 80`series LC axles on with 37" tyres , my question is : can i still use the the power steering pump on the 4runner with the steering box off a 80`series or do i need to swap the pump as well ?????????????????????

many thanks gloves.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:12 am
by want33s
4runner pump should be fine with the 80 box but Falcon teardrop would be better.
Why the need for the 80 box? IFS lux/runner will turn 37's.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:29 am
by Mr DJ
Agree with want33's, why do you need the 80 steering box ? More rotational movement or longer pittman arm ?

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:21 pm
by gloves
i was told the you couldn`t rotate the pit man arm 180 degree`s ( take it off and put it back on the other direction,facing forword ) i want to move the front axle 5" inches forward ,but to get the right steering geometry or lines, the steering box needs to move back. so can you use the 4runner box ?????

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:35 pm
by Mr DJ
I am using an 80 series pittman arm on an IFS steering box moved as far FORWARD as possible and works, but diff is only 30mm further forward.

5" forward, you may be better off with full hydro steering unless it's supposed to be road legal of course.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:33 pm
by want33s
gloves wrote:i was told the you couldn`t rotate the pit man arm 180 degree`s ( take it off and put it back on the other direction,facing forword ) i want to move the front axle 5" inches forward ,but to get the right steering geometry or lines, the steering box needs to move back. so can you use the 4runner box ?????
If you turn the pitman 180* when you turn the steering wheel to the left the car will turn right..

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:45 pm
by RAY185
want33s wrote:
gloves wrote:i was told the you couldn`t rotate the pit man arm 180 degree`s ( take it off and put it back on the other direction,facing forword ) i want to move the front axle 5" inches forward ,but to get the right steering geometry or lines, the steering box needs to move back. so can you use the 4runner box ?????
If you turn the pitman 180* when you turn the steering wheel to the left the car will turn right..
So you need to turn the drivers seat around too.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:58 pm
by Mr DJ
A Patrol steering box may work tho ....

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:23 am
by gloves
If you turn the pitman 180* when you turn the steering wheel to the left the car will turn right..[/quote]


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: that would be so funny , provided you had plenty of space , pop your friends pitman arm off , and spin it round 180* :twisted:

back to the original Q: i think il use the LC box ,keep it toyota , i had a look on lukeys 4x4 site and hes done the same thing with his hi-lux :cool:
Q: does any know of any links to builds that have used 80`s axles , so i can see different ideas ????? many thanks gloves

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:37 pm
by 91Mav
Hey mate,
Go the LC box. It'll let you move the front axle forward further than an IFS box will (assuming they're both mounted in the same position on the chassis). Lukey sells the plates for the LC boxes pretty cheap but I'd recommend getting them from http://www.budscustoms.com.au/product.asp?ProductID=929" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; as they come with the crush tubes, bolts, washers etc and the plates are curved to minimise cracking at the welds. The box is physically bigger as well.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:52 pm
by gloves
Thanks 91mav ,il have a look at that kit , the bigger box may work better with the 37`s aswell . many thanks everybody for the help - gloves. ;)

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:30 pm
by 3dhilux
im running an ifs box in a 99 lux with an 80 series diff and ive had to wind out the steering stop bolts due to the ifs box having less swing.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:49 am
by Shadow
3dhilux wrote:im running an ifs box in a 99 lux with an 80 series diff and ive had to wind out the steering stop bolts due to the ifs box having less swing.
I think you just need to put the 80 series pitman arm (which will be longer) on the ifs box.

Re: 80`series steering box on a 4runner

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:07 pm
by 3dhilux
pictures tell a thousand words in hindsight i would us an 80 box