Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey guys- thinking about buying a 60 series and i'm just wondering how much they weigh?

I think its around 2.5 tonne - Thats whats written for the brake test wieght on my Pink slip
So I'd say that'd be almost overkill
Close enough though
And definantly - get the 60
Especially if your going to flog it
HJ60 - You can't kill 'em

Hey birlo, can't kill a 60 huh??? Not drive'n it hard enough I presume!!!! I dunked mine and hydraulic'd the donk.... knew i shoulda invested in that snorkel!!! Not to worry, went out and bout another 60 with 6.2chev convo, dual lockers and SPO(ohh and snorkel) while I rebuild the old girl.... Can't beat the chev though!!!
Will agree with the fact they are a tough nut to crack though!!!

2.5 tonnes?!?! that's pretty F***in heavy isn't it? how over compensating would that figure be? bear in mind that i'm from W.A and do a lot of sand driving-don't want to need a snorkel to conquer a sand dune also, what sort of fuel economy will i get out of a NA diesel? better or worse than a GQ? (I drove a GQ yesterday but i didn't really like it- would rather a 60)

About 2.4 tonnes is what my HJ60 weighs.
Following on from your other question about a first 4WD:
If you are after good power to weight ratio for sand, good economy, the room of a station wagon and a cheap first car, you won't find one. They are all a compromise. (unless you go V8 on gas with access to cheap gas but being from WA I'd say that's unlikely)
My choices would be:
1. 80 or 100 series turbo deisel. This will meet your needs but costs more than 35k
2. 60 series turbo deisel. This will meet you needs but costs 12-15k
3. turbo deisel Rocky 2.8 4cyl early 90s model. This will be in your price range, gives good power to weight, looks like a disco (at a glance) but is a bit cramped for space. (I reckon they are underated)
4. Ford explorer! They can be had for 15k. They've got good power, not bad economy for a petrol (better than nissan and Toyota petrol 6cyl), very reliable and would be more than capable. You just have to ignore the 4WD fraternaty giving you stick about owning one.

Cheers.

brighty wrote:Hey birlo, can't kill a 60 huh??? Not drive'n it hard enough I presume!!!! I dunked mine and hydraulic'd the donk.... knew i shoulda invested in that snorkel!!! Not to worry, went out and bout another 60 with 6.2chev convo, dual lockers and SPO(ohh and snorkel) while I rebuild the old girl.... Can't beat the chev though!!!
Will agree with the fact they are a tough nut to crack though!!!

Dont drive it hard enough?????? Belive me, he is trying his damn best to fark it up
Layto....

Sand Driving - Well my 60 sucked at it... Couldn't be the driver
Nah I was up to my chassis first 200 meters onto the beach
took us about 2 hours to dig me out
For a sand car - go a soft roader...
A Subaru outback has actually pulled me out of a sand hole!!!!!
Fuel economy ain't too bad - I got a 90litre tank I get between 800 and 900kms out of it - depends how I drive though...
If you want to do rock crawling or mud running or anything like that - heaps of cars are easier to do up... But I've done stuff in my 60 that I thought would kill me - Hasn't yet... so the trucks unconquerable
The 100 series is a good sand driver
I got no other advice - except - GO THE 60's

pretty sure a bare hj60 is a touch over 2tonne

of course with bullbars etc they get heavier.

thanks for the input guys- the more i learn the more i realise that i am going to have to compromise in one way or another. how about a turbo or supercharged 2.8 diesel 4runner?

my HJ60 is about 2.4 tonne

My 60 weighed in at 2360 and included a steel bull bar, 60 litres of fuel and some other odds and ends.

let my tyres down to 12 psi for sand

in my 60s 31'' tyres its great 2 wheel drive 90% off the time while driving around stockton beach

''ROWAN'' i was getting 10 litres per 100kms (on road)
2h diesel n/a 5 speed

You just gotta go light mate
Anything over 2 tonne is to heavy for the sand your goin' in
I've lived over there
The four runners all right - 'specially with a turbo
They're also heaps easy to do up
And I will admit - mabey I can't drive on the sand

Hey,
I'm from Perth originally & i'd hit the sand every weekend & honestly the best fourby in the dunes is a Range Rover.
I've driven all sorts of trucks [ 60 series, hilux, sierra, GQ, 82 subaru ] on the beach & the Rangie ran circles round them all.
They're such a good package because mainly, their weight distribution, the light all alloy motor means the majority of the weight is in the middle of the vehicle [ stops the front end sinking, big problem with jap trucks], the truck only weighs 1700 kg from the factory.
Good wheel travel, low range gearing, rust resistence, alloy panels, driving position[ great over dunes ], transmission handbrake& their cheap so u can thrash em & not worry [ parts r cheap too just see Rovacraft]. Disc brakes all round, well tucked underside, equally off set diff pumpkins[ good when ploughing in deep sand] & full time 4WD [ bonus believe ] r all big pluses.
My Rangie had a 4.4 P76 alloy V8 & 265/ 75 R 16 tyres but was otherwise stock & 28 years old, it never let me down, honest, I did this for 2 years in this truck & thjen hooked up a camper trailer & did a lap of the country no prob.
I drive a GU Patrol coilcab now [ I need a ute ] But i'd go back to an old Rangie for tough off road [ especially beach bashing ]

Hey Rowan, if your after good fuel economy go a TDI out of a Discovery or even a Discovery itself [ they're the same as a rangie underneath, so is a Defender in fact, & the diesel is not much heavier than alloy V8 ].
I know people with these motors who don't get worst figures than 12L / 100 KM no matter how they drive em. They bolt straight into a Rangie, but work best with the auto.
Where abouts do you hit the beach usually? I used to spend most of my time north of Two Rocks to Moore River, from Lancelin right up to Jurien bay & Hill river & occasionally down Preston beach to Australind. The former is excellent country close to the metro area & with excellent fishing, a great weekend spot.
Sheesh, I really miss home, maybe i'll move back again soon. Has it warmed up yet?

daryl

how do you manage to get 10L/100km. i get about 14L/100km and i have a turbo diesel with a 5speed.

What year is yours.