Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Yes it is finally here in Queensland as of the 1st November.

Details as yet have not been released, but there are changes, most I hope for the better.

Engine Replacements:- was LA1 before, now LA1, LA2, LA3 & LA4 this will cover multi types of engine swaps, but I have been told that anything over a 5.8lt into a full size 4WD will still need written approval from Transport before it can legally be signed off.

Roll Cages:- was LH8 but now there are several Codes to comply with on this one.

I will not know what the changes are until the 1st as nothing has been released.

My Approval Codes have been changed and I can use the new Codes after the 1st November. But still waiting on all the new changes to be released.

If work has been commenced under the old codes/rules can still be used upto the 30th April 2013.

Cheers
David Metcalfe
Approved Person 2868

what about suspension links, Ie not changing the type of set up (radius arm or 4 link etc) but lengthening a link. Meaning a new link and new chassis mount.

uninformed wrote:what about suspension links, Ie not changing the type of set up (radius arm or 4 link etc) but lengthening a link. Meaning a new link and new chassis mount.

What I have seen, still no.

The only way to get this approved is by submitting Form 1854 to Transport for their approval. If approved they will then issue you an approval letter stating what Codes (if any) you will need to get.

Please don't listen to anyone that says "I know someone who can Approve that". Because it will be a waste of good money.

As stated before those sort of mods need prior approval by Transport before they can be plated.

Cheers
David

thanks David, is there a particular branch or person to deal with in DOT? I went to my local branch and asked for a list of approved ENGINEERS and the details they gave me were for mechanics etc that do blue plate for seat belts/seats etc.....

it is very frustrating trying to do the right thing...........

shit better pull my finger out and get my engineering started just incase it all goes to shit!

Fingers crossed they don't go backwards on the already tight limits on suspension/tyres.

Maverick93 wrote:Fingers crossed they don't go backwards on the already tight limits on suspension/tyres.

Hi, if what I have seen suspension will stay the same, but made clearer.

Tyres will increase to 50mm instead of what we have now of 15mm.

But will let you know as soon as I find out.

Cheers
David

Shadow wrote:shit better pull my finger out and get my engineering started just incase it all goes to shit!

It will not go to shit, just clearer (but no one seems to listen anyway, but then complains when Transport take them off the road)

Just remember that if it has anything to do with moving or building new suspension mounts or components you must have Transports Approval first, as there is no Code that can be used for mods like this.

Cheers
David

With the tire size increase if your 31" tires standard we still can't have 33" tires as that's 50.8 right ?

stock 4runner wrote:With the tire size increase if your 31" tires standard we still can't have 33" tires as that's 50.8 right ?

If there is a 50mm increase allowed, then 50.8mm is too big.

So it will be the same with CCDA spec cages made out of 44.45 tube are not road legal as it has to be 45mm right ?

stock 4runner wrote:So it will be the same with CCDA spec cages made out of 44.45 tube are not road legal as it has to be 45mm right ?

put a real thick coat of paint on LOL

stock 4runner wrote:So it will be the same with CCDA spec cages made out of 44.45 tube are not road legal as it has to be 45mm right ?

That has always been allowed (44.45 tube) I think in the days long ago it was eaiser to say 45 then 44.45 which in old day terms was 13/4"

Until I see what is allowed I cannot be sure. But I am quite sure that you will not be able to have an "A" pillar hoop under the normal roll cage rules, which is now LK8 from the 1/11/2012. There are now several Codes for the Roll Cage/Bar. As soon as I know I will let you know.

Cheers
David

So queensland still sucks buckets of dick for vehicle modifications? Righto then.

So being able to say 44.45 is 45 is okay but we can't say 50 is 2 inch love the way they can have two things the same but different. When I went to school 44.45 would be rounded down to 44 not up to 45. Wow I wish I worked in government lol

Have you heard if there is a code for front diff swap comming too ?

stock 4runner wrote:Have you heard if there is a code for front diff swap comming too ?

No not at the moment.

So you will still have to seek approval.

But if you are talking about IFS to solid you will still have to seek approval first before it can be done.

Cheers
David

Nah mines factory solid front. Was thinking of going 4runnrr on 80 or 60 diffs

stock 4runner wrote:Nah mines factory solid front. Was thinking of going 4runnrr on 80 or 60 diffs

Will have to seek approval first. Form 1854

Cheers
David

Am I right in saying I still can't widen my track by more then 50mm even with this.

stock 4runner wrote:Am I right in saying I still can't widen my track by more then 50mm even with this.

Yes that is correct.

Track is measured center to center, so rims can be made to suit the legal increase.

ok so does that mean dave it isn't measured from outside of tyre to outside of tyre? i dont know anything but thought this was the case? as in center of tyre to center of tyre would give a massive variance...

def90 wrote:ok so does that mean dave it isn't measured from outside of tyre to outside of tyre? i dont know anything but thought this was the case? as in center of tyre to center of tyre would give a massive variance...

track is measured from centre of tyre on one side of car, to centre of tyre on the other side

stock 4runner wrote:So being able to say 44.45 is 45 is okay but we can't say 50 is 2 inch love the way they can have two things the same but different. When I went to school 44.45 would be rounded down to 44 not up to 45. Wow I wish I worked in government lol

An inch is 24.7mm, so 2" = 49.4mm.

DarkHorse Vitara wrote:

stock 4runner wrote:So being able to say 44.45 is 45 is okay but we can't say 50 is 2 inch love the way they can have two things the same but different. When I went to school 44.45 would be rounded down to 44 not up to 45. Wow I wish I worked in government lol

An inch is 24.7mm, so 2" = 49.4mm.

an inch is 25.4mm 2inches is 50.8mm.

Hi Dave
Can I keep my 35's on my 47 cruiser??

Bearded1 wrote:Hi Dave
Can I keep my 35's on my 47 cruiser??

Yes if you want, it is up to you.

But legally no. At the moment 15mm bigger and if all goes well from the 1st Nov 50mm bigger then what is listed on the vehicles tyre placard.

Cheers
David

Shadow wrote:

DarkHorse Vitara wrote:

stock 4runner wrote:So being able to say 44.45 is 45 is okay but we can't say 50 is 2 inch love the way they can have two things the same but different. When I went to school 44.45 would be rounded down to 44 not up to 45. Wow I wish I worked in government lol

An inch is 24.7mm, so 2" = 49.4mm.

an inch is 25.4mm 2inches is 50.8mm.

Wow, what the f*ck was I thinking when I wrote that? Sorry guys, don't mind me!

XTREME MMM wrote:

Bearded1 wrote:Hi Dave
Can I keep my 35's on my 47 cruiser??

Yes if you want, it is up to you.

But legally no. At the moment 15mm bigger and if all goes well from the 1st Nov 50mm bigger then what is listed on the vehicles tyre placard.

Cheers
David

I might be moving from WA to Qld, so it sounds like I should sell my 35s first and fit 32s?

With Tyres 31's are not 31 inch they are usually slightly over, 33's are not 33 inch they are usually just under (some brands a lot under), so 33's will pass without a problem if you check the brand and manufacturers specs and choose accordingly